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creatine

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by fatherseanfan, Oct 2, 2006.

  1. fatherseanfan

    fatherseanfan Senior member

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    is creatine supposed to be taken 7 days a week, or only on the days you work out?
     
  2. kever

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    I take it 7 days a week. I also take a higher dose on the days that I work out than the days I do not.
     
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    I lost a kidney due to creatine [​IMG]
     
  5. MrRogers

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    H creatine.... Biggest scam in the supplement world.

    Most powdered creatines are crap, ethyl ester is the newest thing and is supposed to work better, which it to say it would work at all.

    If you want to gain more size, eat an extra lb of lean chicken a day, it'll work 10x better that creatine and coast about as much

    MrR
     
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    AH creatine.... Biggest scam in the supplement world.

    Most powdered creatines are crap, ethyl ester is the newest thing and is supposed to work better, which it to say it would work at all.

    If you want to gain more size, eat an extra lb of lean chicken a day, it'll work 10x better that creatine and coast about as much

    MrR



    For me I have noticed a drop off of size and strength when I go off of creatine. I've been off and on about 5 times in he past 5 years and I usually lose a noticable amount of size when I go off. I also notice my compound lifts seem more difficult. I have read articles on places like Pubmed.com that show that creatine does work and ones that says it does nothing to enhance performance. I might be all in my head, but I'm going to continue using it as I feel it helps me. To each their own..

    Also, I get about a month and a half out of a thing of creatine right now. If I could find a month and a half worth of 1LB of chicken daily for $40 I'd be all over it.
     
  7. Soph

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    For me I have noticed a drop off of size and strength when I go off of creatine. I've been off and on about 5 times in he past 5 years and I usually lose a noticable amount of size when I go off. I also notice my compound lifts seem more difficult. I have read articles on places like Pubmed.com that show that creatine does work and ones that says it does nothing to enhance performance. I might be all in my head, but I'm going to continue using it as I feel it helps me. To each their own..

    Also, I get about a month and a half out of a thing of creatine right now. If I could find a month and a half worth of 1LB of chicken daily for $40 I'd be all over it.


    ----It's not in your head. My endurance (ablility to do more reps)l noticeably increased while on creatine. And I'm very critical of it being in my head so to speak. Your performance does increase. There is water loss for sure/weight when stopping. I think it gives you at least a 5 to 10% better strength performance and definitly you do not fatigue as much. The research backs up that it works. But it is for those athletes wantingto perform at the highest level. There are no long term data on the health risks of creatine so something to keep in mind. There also maybe some mental benefits.
     
  8. MrRogers

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    Every drug has a placebo effect, if we gave 100 guys creatine and others powdered sugar, plently of the powdered sugar guys would make similar statements as to its benefits. I'm very attuned to my body and have tried prolly a dozen brands over the years; I never felt that any of them did anything for me in terms of strength or size.

    Just my .02$

    MrR
     
  9. ts4them

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    I love Creatine; it volumizes my muscles, and makes them more rounded. When I don't take it, my muscles look 'flatter'. I take it everyday, but I don't do the loading phase. I like the micronized (AST) as it's not as gritty and doesn't upset my stomach like others have.
     
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    creatine works. there are different types. some work better than others.
     
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    Works for as long as you take it. And should be taken 7 days.
     
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    The research on creatine is fairly definitive, but moderately difficult to interpret. To put it very simply, it is effective but only if you're actually pushing yourself quite hard. In the simplest possible terms, it will give you the energy to do a few more reps at high weights, which will help you gain faster and in that way, will increase your strength more quickly. However, it's up to you to do the heavy lifting. If you're not doing workouts at a very high level (relatively to your capacity) it's likely you won't see much or any improvement from creatine.
     
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    right. creatine increases work capacity. it's up to you to capitalize off of that to gain from it.

    before creatine in supplement form, one of the best way to get it was through raw beef:

    * old school boxers would chew on raw beef (beef has creatine) to increase their "stamina".
    * sugar ray robinson, maybe the greatest pound-for-pound boxer would put raw steak through a juice squeezer and drink the blood.
    * the masai tribe of kenya drinks cattle blood for strength.

    good thing we have gnc now.

    a regular 5 gram dose of creatine takes about 5 pounds of raw steak.
     
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    I thought creatine also helped to keep water in the muscles, volumizing the muscle on a purely cosmetic level.
     
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    is creatine supposed to be taken 7 days a week, or only on the days you work out?

    I haven't read up on it but from personal experience I suggest not taking it everyday. I tried it for awhile when I use to snowboard 6 days a week to help with soreness and muscle fatigue but I didn't like the side effects... It changes your personality and gives you a short temper like a drunken frat boy.
     
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    i've never heard of someone getting cranky off of creatine.

    in fact, there are studies that show that creatine has NO effect on mood.

    are you sure what you were experiencing wasn't placebo effect?
     
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    For me I have noticed a drop off of size and strength when I go off of creatine. I've been off and on about 5 times in he past 5 years and I usually lose a noticable amount of size when I go off.

    I notice the same thing.
     
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    I am HUGE!
     
  20. ang_kangkong

    ang_kangkong Senior member

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    I've used creatine in the past and I can say that it's worked for me.

    Don't like the loading phase ones. Around the 3rd day I'd get some irritable bowels. Lasted me about 2 days.

    Pumps were better.

    When I'd go off it, I got more definition, though. I think I retained water on it

    Anybody find they had to pee more? Is it just me? Weird, I'd pee more, but the muscles seemed to have more water.
     

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