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Covid accelerated dress code de-formalization - true or false?

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Women who attracted to slobs and sloppily dressed is not new. If you want to swim in that pool you sure to catch something...due to XXXL size of the group.
Chrome 22'' inch wheels and lights under your car might also attract some large contingency if you are into that type. So if your destiny is a numbers game def. go for it.
 

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I think in general, niche wardrobe choices are not, by themselves, going to attract women. I say that in terms of CM as well as SW&D, because I don't think $300 selvedge or the latest Engineered Garments fit is any more likely to attract women than wearing a well tailored suit.
 

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Women who attracted to slobs and sloppily dressed is not new. If you want to swim in that pool you sure to catch something...due to XXXL size of the group.
Chrome 22'' inch wheels and lights under your car might also attract some large contingency if you are into that type. So if your destiny is a numbers game def. go for it.
Comments like this are always made by guys who wear walnut-colored shoes with dad jeans and some orphaned Kiton suit jacket.
 
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I gather from the direction this thread has taken that Covid never really happened, at least from the perspective of how we dress, as some of the arguments and points being made would have been just as valid 2-3 years ago. Perhaps even 600 years ago. I’m sure on some Welsh village back then Blacksmith’s apprentice Llewelyn was wondering if the buckle on his shoe was on trend and if the dairy maids would find him attractive.
 

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For me when I was teleworking for 6 months I didn't dress well, half the time I didn't dress and my most used shoe was a slipper. The only reason I haven't gone back to trousers is almost none fit and I refuse to get new ones.

Almost no one where's a jacket at my work and only a few wear a tie. I stopped wearing my sportscoats as I got tired of the comments/questions.
 

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By the way, the best thing about this is they clearly didn't get the memo that white lists are much better than black lists, as all software engineers know. Their dress code is literally *not* a dress code.
While I would also love to be able to globally ban hoodies under jackets (please SuitSupply and Gagliardi stylists, stop it), apparently they don't have a clear rule against wearing one *over* a jacket, provided that it's not short-sleeved ofc.
Also, they seem to really hate workwear with a passion.
 

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This entire thread reminds me of the controversy, accusations of racism, the all together shit show and the eventual closure of Bottled Blonde in Chicago.

The “restaurant”, I use that term in quotes as it was more a bar and nightclub, opened in 2015 and closed in 2020. Not because of Covid, mind you. The closing had been in the offing for some time due to lawsuits and complaints about noise, rowdy behavior inside and out and basically a menace to the neighborhood it was in, and given that it was in Chicago’s river north area, that’s saying something.

They really pissed a lot of people off and brought down upon themselves accusations of racism when they posted this dress code:




my favorite part is the comment about “classy” and a “high standard” of dress. I can tell you that having been in there once for dinner there was little to indicate that it was either classy or they adhered to any particular standard of dress.

These dress codes are somewhat meaningless though in this case they were more a punchline.
All this from a place named "Bottled Blonde"?
 

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That dress code scroll is not racist against the patrons, but it is definitely racist against the owners who authored that imbecilic drivel.
 

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Watch this video and notice the way people are dressed, this is very recent, from London. You will see some business type looking people after-hours going to get a beer with friends. This is a Friday night, so definitely not a Monday morning type attire, but I have gained some insights just by watching people.

 

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Before you ask me what insights these might be - you can tell people are preoccupied with themselves, nobody really cares anymore how they're dressed AND how they're seen in public. You can tell men definitely have let themselves go. Some women who are still in that age where they should care, still care - kind of. But most people now dress for comfort.

I fear there's more athleisure clothing on the way to usher in this brave new World. Perhaps I should buy stock in Crocs and Lululemon
 

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Before you ask me what insights these might be - you can tell people are preoccupied with themselves, nobody really cares anymore how they're dressed AND how they're seen in public. You can tell men definitely have let themselves go. Some women who are still in that age where they should care, still care - kind of. But most people now dress for comfort.

I fear there's more athleisure clothing on the way to usher in this brave new World. Perhaps I should buy stock in Crocs and Lululemon
I can't sit through 24 minutes of someone just walking down the street. So I just skipped around. Most people definitely dress for comfort and convenience, but I think a lot of CM guys assume that just because someone isn't communicating in their exact dress language, they don't care about how they dress. Some people are highly attuned to clothes and are as intentional about their dress as guys who obsess over Milanese buttonholes. They are just dressing according to a different subcultural language.

When you read about different dress cultures, you'll see that people are very specific about certain sneakers, leather jackets, the patches on a jacket, the right cut of jeans, etc. All these things are very nuanced. They just may not be in a language that someone else understands (and it may not be for that audience, just as much of what's discussed here has no real imprint on the masses).
 

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I can't sit through 24 minutes of someone just walking down the street. So I just skipped around. Most people definitely dress for comfort and convenience, but I think a lot of CM guys assume that just because someone isn't communicating in their exact dress language, they don't care about how they dress. Some people are highly attuned to clothes and are as intentional about their dress as guys who obsess over Milanese buttonholes. They are just dressing according to a different subcultural language.

When you read about different dress cultures, you'll see that people are very specific about certain sneakers, leather jackets, the patches on a jacket, the right cut of jeans, etc. All these things are very nuanced. They just may not be in a language that someone else understands (and it may not be for that audience, just as much of what's discussed here has no real imprint on the masses).
What percentage of people would you estimate truly care how they dress (regardless of whether that’s CM, SWD or whatever dress culture you want to include)?
 

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What percentage of people would you estimate truly care how they dress (regardless of whether that’s CM, SWD or whatever dress culture you want to include)?
Can't imagine putting a meaningful number on that. I imagine it varies by region, too.
 

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