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Corneliani ID - canvased or fused?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by WestOfPCH, Dec 6, 2009.

  1. WestOfPCH

    WestOfPCH Active Member

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    I've been intrigued by the Corneliani ID sport coat -- the one with the working buttons up the lapel and the zip out faux-sweater. Here's a link to a picture and description: http://patrickjames.com/product.aspx...uct=1852BLAC50 I know there are mixed opinions here on the board on the style itself, but at this point, I've decided I like the style & versatility of the jacket (though I can't imagine wearing it very often --if ever -- with that faux-sweater actually zipped in). I've seen it only once in person, but I found out that it is on sale at a few locations now for ~$900-ish. I think it's potentially worth it if it's canvased, but there's absolutely no way I'm paying that much for a fused sports coat. Unfortunately, I can't get my hands on the jacket to check myself. On other threads, I've seen it said that Corneliani main line is canvased and that Trend and CC lines are fused (which matches my own experience w/ Corneliani). But I've gotton conflicting info on Corneliani ID. On the Corneliani website, "Corneliani ID" is listed as a subset of their mainline Corneliani clothes, and the price point seems to be comparable to mainline Corneliani. Can anyone comment on this with absolute certainty? Many thanks in advance.
     


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    mishon Senior member

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    Where do you see that this is Corneliani ID? It looks like the mainline model to me. As a result, most likely canvassed.
     


  3. WestOfPCH

    WestOfPCH Active Member

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    Where do you see that this is Corneliani ID? It looks like the mainline model to me. As a result, most likely canvassed.

    I guess I'm not sure. The version of the jacket I saw in person was a dark navy blue with chalk stripes and metal buttons, and there isn't a picture of that exact piece anywhere on the website.

    I was thinking that it's ID because on the Corneliani website, the pictures that come closest to showing the jacket I think I'm talking about are in the ID subsection of the mainline Corneliani site: http://www.corneliani.com/en/index.jsp (The site is done in Flash, so unfortunately I can't post a link directly to the picture).
     


  4. lee_44106

    lee_44106 Senior member

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    Corneliani ID are mostly fused.

    You are paying for the "fashion" and not for the construction merits.
     


  5. oilers

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    These jackets are great. I've sold them over the past couple years in the business and people always rave about their versatility. They also made an overcoat style this season with the zip out 'bib' that was featured in this month's GQ. According to one of my colleagues they are also quite big in Europe. She said upon visiting a Corneliani flagship store in Italy a whole section was devoted to the 'hybrid' jacket and could be found in lots of colours, such as white, tan, blue, etc.

    As far as whether it is canvassed or not, I am not a 100% certain but I am pretty sure it is fused or semi-fused. The jacket would lose much of its structure if it was fully canvassed because it is constructed somewhat different from a traditional sportcoat.
     


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    I like these coats. I tried it on in a gray and navy herringbone IIRC at harry rosen and I thought they looked great. So I asked the SA if they were canvassed. She looked inside the jacket for the tag and said "no, it's wool". [​IMG]
     


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    Corneliani ID are mostly fused.

    You are paying for the "fashion" and not for the construction merits.


    From my discussions with the owner of the Corneliani store here in Tokyo he explained that there are 2 lines of Corneliani ID. The ones he sells are canvassed or unstructured. He said that in Europe there is a broader selection available and those may be fused or also unstructured.

    I have several Corneliani ID and several are indeed canvassed. Two are unstructured and may be fused. But due to the nature of the fabric I think that is the only way to get the structure to the jacket (like the last picture from this blog).

    You may also notice that on the ID jackets, of the four cuff buttons, two are working holes. Two are non-working and non-buttoned holes. SF'ers don't like this look. The same store manager said that most customers ask him to open the other two holes to make them all working button holes.
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    I can't imagine a jacket with a built in sweater being canvassed. If the canvas is there to improve the way it drapes, then the sweater would render it useless. (Not that I know of what I speak.)
     


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    I just purchased this Corneliani ID winter/fall jacket and it is fully canvased. I got it for $200 BNWT orig retail was $1295.00. Its completely unstructured with no padding and the most versatile jacket I've ever owned! A fantastic jacket at its retail price point so at $200 I feel like I stole it! Its definitely a favorite of mine already... Black w/ chalk pins... [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     


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    My experience with Corneliani ID is the jacket is softly constructed. Some are unstructured and some are fused (but very lightly fused and not like cardboard), and slimmer cut than the mainline.
     


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    I just purchased this Corneliani ID winter/fall jacket and it is fully canvased. I got it for $200 BNWT orig retail was $1295.00. Its completely unstructured with no padding and the most versatile jacket I've ever owned! A fantastic jacket at its retail price point so at $200 I feel like I stole it! Its definitely a favorite of mine already...

    Black w/ chalk pins...
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    ^great deal! where did you get it?
     


  12. The Gooch

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    Very nice! Is that a leather band on the collar?
     


  13. A Guy from Shanghai

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    I have seen a couple at my local off5th store. They are fused. But they are spring/summer linen jackets. The original retail price is ~1,200 IIRC, similar to the main line.
     


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    If you like it, who cares if it's fused? People on here have elaborate tests to even determine whether a jacket is fused or not, and even then most people aren't sure. It's not like fused garments burst into flames after three wearings or something.
     


  15. TC (Houston)

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    If you like it, who cares if it's fused? People on here have elaborate tests to even determine whether a jacket is fused or not, and even then most people aren't sure. It's not like fused garments burst into flames after three wearings or something.

    So you don't think canvassing has any value?
     


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