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Cordovan Color for Burgundy Shoes?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jcw122, Apr 12, 2011.

  1. jcw122

    jcw122 Member

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    Hi, I'm looking for a quick answer and having issues using Google to find it.

    I need to polish my shoes up before tomorrow night, and I can't find "Burgundy" colored shoe polish at the local store. I did find a Kiwi can with the color labeled "Cordovan", and it seems similar, but I'm unsure. Is Cordovan the correct color for a Burgundy AE shoe, or should I seek out a can labeled burgundy? Thx.

    -Jon
     
  2. Knucklehead

    Knucklehead Senior member

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    Cordovan is a darker polish than burgundy. Do not use cordovan polish if you want your loafers to remain true burgundy.

    I have experience with this; I used cordovan polish on burgundy Bass penny loafers. The first time it imparted dark streaks to the loafers but managed to bring them to a polish. I have since polished the loafers with cordovan polish perhaps one dozen times. The loafers have taken on a overall darker, complicated, patinated appearance. They have a certain piquancy.
     
  3. Ianiceman

    Ianiceman Senior member

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    I made the same mistake. Kiwi cordovan is almost black so gives and antique/streaky result on burgundy. What you need is Kiwi oxblood polish for a true burgundy finish.
     
  4. Leaves

    Leaves Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Saphir has a special Cordovan polish. It comes in black, burgundy, brown, neutral.

    Cordovan itself is actually not a colour, but a material. There is no "Cordovan Colour" although Cordovan is most commonly burgundy.
     
  5. pgd3

    pgd3 Senior member

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    Saphir has a special Cordovan polish. It comes in black, burgundy, brown, neutral.

    Cordovan itself is actually not a colour, but a material. There is no "Cordovan Colour" although Cordovan is most commonly burgundy.


    This is one of those things where despite the fact that Cordovan is a material with colors of its own right, many companies will sell leather that is a burgundy or just darker than color, and they will call the leather something like Cordovan Calf.

    Which seems like an oxymoron, but the look of a #8 shell shoe is often referred to has "cordovan" when you purchase a darker red shoe, regardless of leather.

    Kiwi Cordovan shoe polish to me looks purple, and I don't use it on shell shoes... Go figure.
     
  6. Knucklehead

    Knucklehead Senior member

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    Cordovan itself is actually not a colour, but a material. There is no "Cordovan Colour" although Cordovan is most commonly burgundy.

    I think it is understood that we're using "cordovan" as a shorthand for the most popular rendition of cordovan polish, which is a color made by kiwi. I beleive the lion's share of people here know that cordovan is a material, not a color.
     
  7. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Which seems like an oxymoron, but the look of a #8 shell shoe is often referred to has "cordovan" when you purchase a darker red shoe, regardless of leather.

    Interestingly enough, the actual #8 shell may not be that color-- before Alden gets hold of it. If you go to Lattanzi's shop they will have a bunch of #8 cordovan shoes about and they are all dark brown with not a hint of purple. Much nicer if you ask me, although perhaps not nice enough to justify a $6K price tag for bespoke.
     
  8. rebel222

    rebel222 Senior member

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    Kiwi's Cordovan polish and Burgundy are very similar. It won't make much of a difference.
     
  9. Knucklehead

    Knucklehead Senior member

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    Kiwi's Cordovan polish and Burgundy are very similar. It won't make much of a difference.

    The cordovan polish I used is Kiwi. It didn't match the leather on my Bass Weejuns.
     
  10. antsshoes

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    I would say don't polish them with anything other than the appropriate color (which can be ordered from AE online or an AE store).

    Good luck.
     
  11. Bear

    Bear Well-Known Member

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    I want to renew this thread...

    Have some merlot AE Park Ave's on the way and I am trying to find the right color for polishing.

    Seems like there are many different options out there and I can probably just be safe and go with the matched polish/was combo AE makes.

    But, I want to get everyone's opinion...I was thinking of maybe using Kiwi but don't know which color to use - Burgundy or Cordovan

    Was also thinking of buying the Alden Color 8 wax and use that - but didn't want to get others opinion - maybe some has already tried this?

    I have heard Alden wax is just Kiwi as well (seems like AE and Alden wax are both Kiwi - but only through rumors).

    Any and all help is appreciated - thanks in advance.
     
  12. swiego

    swiego Senior member

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    I've used BB cordovan-colored paste wax for my AE burgundy-colored cordovans :)
     
  13. Bear

    Bear Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.

    I also want to make sure that using a "cordovan" paste is good even though the AE merlots are not "cordovan leather"

    I guess just overall I am looking for people with experience shining burgundy shoes and what success they have had with whatever products.

    Any pictures?
     
  14. Bear

    Bear Well-Known Member

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    I guess one main thing I am looking at is - could I use Color 8 Alden polish on AE burgundy and get good results?
     
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    I just use AE's wax/polish. It's simple for me that way.
     
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    I realize this is an old post but I cannot seem to find any Saphir Cordovan in Burgundy? Any hints ?
     
  17. Count de Monet

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    For shoes made of the MATERIAL cordovan, Saphir offers 6 colors plus neutral. One of the colors offered (71) is the COLOR cordovan, which by process of elimination seems to be burgundy, a/k/a "#8".

    Check out The Hanger Project for their colors of each cream and polish they carry,
     
  18. andrel42

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    Thank you Sir! I actually have a few already however never seem to find the burgundy (lighter than color 8) that I often see advertised. Meanwhile using the neutral.
     
  19. isatcong

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    The responses in this thread are confusing. I really hope I can get a definitive answer from someone.

    Kiwi makes a 'burgundy' or 'original brown' polish, and I'm wondering if that would be okay to use with my burgundy shoes pictured below.

    Do you think Saphir's burgundy is better than Kiwi? Or Should I use AE Carnauba burgundy (neutral)?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/KIWI-ORIGIN...561788?hash=item2a5f5d137c:g:MlYAAOSwT6pVy3lc

    http://www.allenedmonds.com/shoes/s...F652_color=654#q=burgundy+shoe+polish&start=1

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  20. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    I wish we could make this a sticky.
     

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