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[venessian]

That is entirely relative.
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Indeed it is.

As is pedantry.

Styleporum is a North American entity, like it or not, and (almost) everyone knows exactly what/who was meant by "white people".

I highly suspect that "white people" as cited by Guccinski L.V. above wasn't really so much intended as "upper crust traditionally wealthy highly educated lighter-skinned, blue blood immigrants from the Old Continent who now lead architectural practices headquartered in Colombia, South America who employ only other "colonially white" practitioners of the art" as it was just plain old "white people"....

Now if Guccinski L.V. is also from Aracataca (but the other side of the tracks from GG Marquez), and in fact meant "white people" as described above, then of course I offer my complete apologies, to him.

 

[venessian]

And speaking of disappointing white people copying Japanese things, this is a wall cabinet I just finished. I've seen a few arts/crafts auctions on social media to benefit BLM related causes. I'd like to donate this cabinet to one of those, but I have no idea how that works. Does anyone here have any experience with that kind of thing?

I do not, but that is very nice work, and a great idea.

I hope someone here can suggest good, practical options.

Have you considered mentorship and or a big brother type of roll? Maybe hire a young POC if you are in a position to. Teach a man to fish v. give a man a fish and all that.

I have no idea regarding his situation in terms of that (work, space, time, etc) but if Bromley could allow such, that would be great. Logistically more difficult now during Covid, but nothing beats experience such as an internship with a talented mentor(s) for early experience and fantastic seed planting.

 

[sugarbutch]

And speaking of disappointing white people copying Japanese things, this is a wall cabinet I just finished. I've seen a few arts/crafts auctions on social media to benefit BLM related causes. I'd like to donate this cabinet to one of those, but I have no idea how that works. Does anyone here have any experience with that kind of thing?

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How about donating the proceeds to EJI? https://eji.org

 

[imatlas]

Van Gogh’s interest in and efforts at copying Japanese woodblocks only influenced art in the West for the next few decades, so yeah let’s dismiss that with a quick aesthetic critique of a single image.

 

[Bromley]

why don't you contact an organization you'd like to support directly and ask how you can donate proceeds of sales to them?

I'd love to do this, but I don't have any marketing reach to sell my work. I think that's why people have been doing group auctions/raffles, which is what I'd like to know more about.

Have you considered mentorship and or a big brother type of roll? Maybe hire a young POC if you are in a position to. Teach a man to fish v. give a man a fish and all that.

Yes! Very eager to be doing this when it's safe to get together again.

 

[FlyingMonkey]

I highly suspect that "white people" as cited by Guccinski L.V. above wasn't really so much intended as "upper crust traditionally wealthy highly educated lighter-skinned, blue blood immigrants from the Old Continent who now lead architectural practices headquartered in Colombia, South America who employ only other "colonially white" practitioners of the art" as it was just plain old "white people"....

I know what Mr Guccinski was saying. That's exactly why I made the point that what you call 'plain old white people' is a geographically-limited social construct. Are you being deliberately obtuse, or is this genuinely hard to understand? Mr G seems fine with the discussion and I'm pretty sure doesn't need you to defend him.

 

[gdl203]

I'd love to do this, but I don't have any marketing reach to sell my work. I think that's why people have been doing group auctions/raffles, which is what I'd like to know more about.

Yes! Very eager to be doing this when it's safe to get together again.

Maybe work with @LA Guy to auction it here. He runs a mean charity auction

 

[LA Guy]

Maybe work with @LA Guy to auction it here. He runs a mean charity auction

Yeah, we’d be happy to host this and to potentially bring in other forums and Reddit groups.

 

[Bromley]

@LA Guy Would be thrilled to do this. Please let me know what you need from me.

 

[LA Guy]

@LA Guy Would be thrilled to do this. Please let me know what you need from me.

In the time of COVID, and total WFH, I'm trying to be as work/weekend separated as possible. Could you please email me on Monday at styleforum.net at gmail dot com and we'll discuss the best way to do this? Th exact strategu depends on the price of the piece, etc...

 

[venessian]

That's exactly why I made the point that what you call 'plain old white people' is a geographically-limited social construct. Are you being deliberately obtuse, or is this genuinely hard to understand?

Interesting choice, which I am not sure proves or disproves your point. In many ways, Van Gogh missed the spirit of Hiroshige's woodcut completely. Van Gogh's painted copy is busy, textured and layered and ends up feeling crowded and all on one level, whereas the original is simple and elegant with flat colours and yet ends up feeling deep and incredibly spatious.

It's more important as an étude* than a product and certainly influenced how Van Gogh painted afterwards and how Japanese art was received in Europe, but it's not that great as a version of the original.

Apparently this claimed obtuseness afflicts equally, then, because what is truly geographically limited ("colonially white...social construct" blah blah etc or not) is your either plain old obtuse or else deliberately obtuse misplacement of my original quotation marks.

I called them: plain old "white people".
You then changed the geography and mis-represented them as: 'plain old white people'.

It is important to be cognizant and respectful of the differences, including the most apparently subtle "minor" ones, especially during these days of dubious doublespeak disguised as dialogue.

I could not have had any idea regarding either the plainness or the age of Guccinski L.V.'s referenced "white people", and so made no such assumptions, but your inaccurate and presumptuous gerrymandering of the geographical limits of punctuation really comes off as so unnecessarily harsh and mean to them.

And so, when you tried to haughtily brush aside imatlas' citation of Van Gogh's "Bridge in the Rain (after Hiroshige)" by so snobbishly labeling the painting an "étude"*...your word...by doing so did you not in fact hypocritically employ all the cultural appropriation and "geographically-limited social construct" terminology at your own disposal by conscripting some fancy mot d'art français to your cause, when you simply could have insulted the thing in standard English, the common language of this forum, and called it a "study"?

"Your mind and you are our Sargasso Sea...."

 

[venessian]

I'd love to do this, but I don't have any marketing reach to sell my work. I think that's why people have been doing group auctions/raffles, which is what I'd like to know more about.

Yes! Very eager to be doing this when it's safe to get together again.

Bromley, I do not know the production output of your work; your ideal involvement (ie one-off donation via a third party like Styleforum/LA Guy auction or to EJI (excellent, I think too) as sugarbutch suggested above, versus longer continued interaction); where you live; etc.; but one other possible option in addition to those previously mentioned could be to initiate contact with local galleries, architecture and design firms, etc., who already organize interactions and know the scene intimately.

One pro in the auction/donation model is convenience, ease, and experience (on the organizers part), but otoh one con is very distant, if any, real personal involvement with the community and eventual recipients of the action.

So depending on location/city some of these institutions and firms (or even significant landmarks organizations such as the Watts Towers) have been very active in local community work and mentoring, etc., for years, often sponsoring or participating in "art walks", open houses, aid drives and the like usually once a year. They would surely be able to advise you if they were interested and willing, and the dialogue could even lead to good acquaintances and friendships.

Good luck. ?

 

[brokencycle]

There was some talk about vacuums recently. There's a good deal on a Miele C2 if you don't need the electric head for carpet: https://slickdeals.net/f/14177429-m...bb400-3-twister-xl-floor-brush-276-05?src=pdw

 

[Guccinski L.V.]

Miele is marsupialed: small wheels that cannot roll over its own electrical cord and get stuck all the time dragging the tangled cord behind. German engineering at its worst like my Audi A6 in which no one can shut the doors on a first try.

 

[sugarbutch]

Miele is marsupialed: small wheels that cannot roll over its own electrical cord and get stuck all the time dragging the tangled cord behind. German engineering at its worst like my Audi A6 in which no one can shut the doors on a first try.

You blame Audi for your non-Teuton weakness? Typical...