Contrast Collar, Matching Pocket Square and Tie Acceptable?

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  1. aravenel

    aravenel Senior member

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    That's because they look terrible...
     
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    +1.
     
  3. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    Is there a reason you want to do this? If you already know it looks bad, why go out of your way to put this combination together? There is no rule stating you must wear a pocket square. If you really want to, white linen or cream silk works.
     
  4. mensimageconsultant

    mensimageconsultant Senior member

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    It's an intellectual, myth-busting exercise (with historical implications). The point is that it doesn't necessarily look bad.
     
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    Ivar Senior member

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    You mean something like this?

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    If you're thinking of recommending it, one would expect you to have an example.
     
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    Then you really need to invest in an example to begin your attempt at bustin'. Best of luck. You're going to need it.
     
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  8. mensimageconsultant

    mensimageconsultant Senior member

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    No, not going to actively recommend it, but perhaps excuse it if someone already has the ingredients.

    It's surprisingly hard to find pictures of contrast collars witth non-white pocket squares (let alone the matching). Ivar, thank you for the example, but it's a bit off. Since the tie has a pattern, that automatically gives it extra attention vs. the pocket square. The camera angle skew things, too. Still, what do the people think of that look?
     
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    They could always be worn separately and not go to waste.
     
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    If someone already has the ingredients, I still think that person is better off with no pocket square at all.
     
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    It looks awful.



    Exactly. Though any solid non-white/cream silk square is going to look cheap at best.
     
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    The problem with this "myth-busting" exercise is that, in my experience, all of the sets of ties-with-matching-pocket-squares are cheap and tacky-looking, and combining that with a contrast-collar shirt is a sure-fire way to look as stylistically clueless as possible. Make the body of the contrast-collar shirt a fully saturated dark color, and the cluelessness factor is magnified. (Contrast collar shirts should have only a modicum of contrast.)

    For myself, when wearing a contrast collar shirt (and I have quite a few of them), I most often use a white cotton handkerchief, in lieu of a colored pocket square, which lets the tie or the shirt (or both) be the focal point of the outfit.
     
  13. mensimageconsultant

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    All of that is true, except for all sets looking inherently bad. There probably are some in tasteful fabrics and colors, perhaps burgundy. The virtually-matching look above can be pulled off, if the wearer has a good amount of dark brown hair.
     
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    Why?
     
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    I would like to see a set of matching tie-and-pocket-square that you would consider "tasteful". As for having a good amount of dark brown hair - that qualification leaves me out (I refer you to my avatar).
     

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