Contract Law Question

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by furo, Sep 28, 2010.

  1. RedLantern

    RedLantern Senior member

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    I suppose I'm arguing that I don't care whether or not it's fair. If I decide I no longer want to use your services I will say so and I will not pay for them if I no longer need them. If you would like to pursue it legally you are withing your rights to do so. I've never had a problem getting out of contracts that no longer were of benefit to me...


    You sound like a wonderful person to do business with.
     
  2. RedLantern

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    If you are a lawyer and that's your position, I wouldn't want you as my lawyer ever. Countless people have been screwed by cell phone companies, gyms and many other services when they didn't deliver customer satisfaction and promises made, so those customers should be able to walk but instead they don't know any better and take it in the ass by paying crazy penalities.

    You should be telling people that yes, make some phone calls to a lawyer if you want to and do some research to try to get out of the contract if you are not happy. I would rather pay your crazy lawyer fee to get me out of a contract, then to give one more cent to a company that I hate.


    as do you.
     
  3. River Dog

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    You sound like a wonderful person to do business with.

    The customer is always right. You sound like a gym owner with your support of these kinds of contracts.
     
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    as do you.

    Yes, we should be more like you and allow companies to take advantage of us.
     
  5. CouttsClient

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    You sound like a wonderful person to do business with.
    I'm a fantastic person to do business with. I always pay on time and support the businesses that support my community but I'm not successful because I'm willing to put up with obvious bullshit. If that gym would have asked me to pay a fee to cancel I would have done so but they didn't. They acted as if I had no way out. I did and I took it. Not my problem.
     
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    I'm a fantastic person to do business with. I always pay on time and support the businesses that support my community but I'm not successful because I'm willing to put up with obvious bullshit.

    If that gym would have asked me to pay a fee to cancel I would have done so but they didn't. They acted as if I had no way out. I did and I took it. Not my problem.


    + fucking 1.
     
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    Why do I feel like I'm being Hey Man'd into walking from this gym, only to find that it was all a ploy?
     
  8. RedLantern

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    I'm a fantastic person to do business with. I always pay on time and support the businesses that support my community but I'm not successful because I'm willing to put up with obvious bullshit.

    If that gym would have asked me to pay a fee to cancel I would have done so but they didn't. They acted as if I had no way out. I did and I took it. Not my problem.


    I suppose I'm arguing that I don't care whether or not it's fair. If I decide I no longer want to use your services I will say so and I will not pay for them if I no longer need them. If you would like to pursue it legally you are within your rights to do so. I've never had a problem getting out of contracts that no longer were of benefit to me...

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  9. Harold falcon

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    Let me add too that my brother is a lawyer and over the years, he has informed me on collection agencies and contracts of this nature in legal terms. They are a joke, but how many people are going to hire a lawyer to go to small claims court.

    Your brother is a lawyer. [​IMG]
     
  10. RedLantern

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    The customer is always right. You sound like a gym owner with your support of these kinds of contracts.

    Yes, we should be more like you and allow companies to take advantage of us.


    My point is more that you seem to have the attitude that you are above the law of contracts. You take on the victim role with such ease it's astonishing to me. Can you not read the contracts that you sign? If you don't like the gym's terms, go to a different gym, work out at home, whatever. You're not a victim just because you changed your mind about something.
     
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    My point is more that you seem to have the attitude that you are above the law of contracts. You take on the victim role with such ease it's astonishing to me. Can you not read the contracts that you sign? If you don't like the gym's terms, go to a different gym, work out at home, whatever. You're not a victim just because you changed your mind about something.

    Because I am not the kind of person that just says oh well and hand people my money if I am not happy with the service they provide. If I can get out of something, I will try to. If I can't, well at least I tried. To me, this is a better position than the one that most people take, which is accept getting screwed.

    How many times have we heard stories about people getting cell phone bills for crazy amounts of money and it actually wasn't their fault or there was something not explained properly by some punk kid at the cell phone store, but doesn't matter, because the company doesn't care and they are going to make you pay for it. That is wrong.

    There are ways to get out of contracts and it seems you don't like that I try to get out of one or that I have a lawyer in my family telling me how to do it. We are not talking about murder here or even a crime in any sense of the word. I am not above the law, I am simply informed through my brother's extensive legal experience on how to get out of a gym contract.

    One thing you are also forgetting. A small mom and pop gym is not expecting people to hire lawyers, so when they get a surprising call from one or the threat of any legal action from the customer, it's a situation they will most likely not want to get involved in. Companies intimidate customers all the time, so it is interesting when you see it happen the other way around.
     
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    In the OP there was nothing to indicate that he was unsatisfied with his gym. Your assumption that the consumer is being screwed is begging the question.

    Changing your mind about something is not being screwed. Having your circumstances change is not being screwed.
     
  13. Harold falcon

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    In the OP there was nothing to indicate that he was unsatisfied with his gym. Your assumption that the consumer is being screwed is begging the question.

    Changing your mind about something is not being screwed. Having your circumstances change is not being screwed.


    Dude, you can't beat him. His brother is a lawyer. He's better than you because he doesn't do what the MAN tells him to. He beats the system. You're just a prole who follows the rules.
     
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    In the OP there was nothing to indicate that he was unsatisfied with his gym. Your assumption that the consumer is being screwed is begging the question.

    Changing your mind about something is not being screwed. Having your circumstances change is not being screwed.


    No, I offered my experience and knowledge that gym contracts are generally weak. If he had a lawyer in his family or a friend that was a lawyer, it might be worth it for him to send them a copy of the contract and get their feedback. Also when one changes their mind when it comes to any company, it usually has something to do with not being happy and that is a valid reason to want to get out of any contract.
     
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    Dude, you can't beat him. His brother is a lawyer. He's better than you because he doesn't do what the MAN tells him to. He beats the system. You're just a prole who follows the rules.

    That's not it at all. He could have looked at the contract and said to me that I was fucked and if I didn't want my credit ruined, just pay them. Are you suggesting it was wrong of me to ask my brother what he thinks I should do? If you had a doctor, lawyer, dentist, accoutant or whatever in your family and you could get free advice, wouldn't you?
     

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