1. And... we're back. You'll notice that all of your images are back as well, as are our beloved emoticons, including the infamous :foo: We have also worked with our server folks and developers to fix the issues that were slowing down the site.

    There is still work to be done - the images in existing sigs are not yet linked, for example, and we are working on a way to get the images to load faster - which will improve the performance of the site, especially on the pages with a ton of images, and we will continue to work diligently on that and keep you updated.

    Cheers,

    Fok on behalf of the entire Styleforum team
    Dismiss Notice

Considering new iMac - thoughts?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Mr. Moo, Mar 1, 2010.

  1. Recoil

    Recoil Senior member

    Messages:
    1,837
    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2007
    Location:
    Toronto
    Their aversions to hardware options, upgrade paths, and consumer choice. Just an example, I have an aversion to OSX (and OS9). That is not the only thing that can run on an Apple PC, but I don't want to use it. Not wanting to use it, means I don't want to buy it. I don't really have a choice, now do I?

    My god, ha ha..., so you do have a valid reason not to like them. I'm glad we spent the last few posts going back and forth to establish you are in fact not one of the people I was talking about.

    Ah, I'll be sure to go back and read all of your posts on the subject.
     
  2. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    My god, ha ha..., so you do have a valid reason not to like them.
    But you just said that not liking the company is not a valid reason for not liking the products... and then you inferred that I am like a racist for not liking the products because Apple is huge piece of shit company. Now I'm confused. Or you are.
     
  3. Recoil

    Recoil Senior member

    Messages:
    1,837
    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2007
    Location:
    Toronto
    But you just said that not liking the company is not a valid reason for not liking the products... and then you inferred that I am like a racist for not liking the products because Apple is huge piece of shit company.

    Now I'm confused. Or you are.


    No, I said in one my earlier posts that some people dislike the company for no good reason. They dislike Apple just because it's Apple, and never articulate any real reason why the company is bad.

    Your reasons are quite valid and it's funny because back when I was into computers as a hobby I disliked Apple for similar reasons. Now I just want a computer that works all the time and doesn't crash or get viruses. That wasn't important to me before but now it is, I used to want to tinker with them all the time. I used to build and race my car too, now I just want a car that turns on and runs.

    Maybe I'm getting old.
     
  4. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    Maybe they just aren't as brave as I am, and don't wish to get into an argument with someone who may or may not be a deranged Mac person. [​IMG]
    Your reasons are quite valid and it's funny because back when I was into computers as a hobby I disliked Apple for similar reasons. Now I just want a computer that works all the time and doesn't crash or get viruses.
    That describes pretty much any moderately well made computer. It has nothing to do with the brand. As for "viruses" if you have a significant problem, you must either be really important, or really dumb, cause for normal people, not getting them is as easy as not opening/downloading unknown programs and email attachments. [​IMG]
     
  5. binge

    binge Senior member

    Messages:
    5,210
    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2008
    Location:
    San Francisco
    I like that any time or day that I check in on this thread, Tokyo Slim has the last post.
     
  6. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    I like that any time or day that I check in on this thread, Tokyo Slim has the last post.
    It's all part of the mystique. It is both a gift and a curse.
     
  7. Trompe le Monde

    Trompe le Monde Senior member

    Messages:
    2,004
    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2009
    Now I just want a computer that works all the time and doesn't crash or get viruses.

    Users *get* viruses and initiate crashes
     
  8. Recoil

    Recoil Senior member

    Messages:
    1,837
    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2007
    Location:
    Toronto
    Maybe they just aren't as brave as I am, and don't wish to get into an argument with someone who may or may not be a deranged Mac person. [​IMG]




    That describes pretty much any moderately well made computer. It has nothing to do with the brand.

    As for "viruses" if you have a significant problem, you must either be really important, or really dumb, cause for normal people, not getting them is as easy as not opening/downloading unknown programs and email attachments. [​IMG]


    In this case it does have to do with the brand because this brand is a certain type of computer, a type that less people make viruses for. Also, viruses don't only come from attachments and downloads.

    I also don't want to have to click "allow" every time I do something. I had an iBook for 4 years without virus protection and never got one.
     
  9. Trompe le Monde

    Trompe le Monde Senior member

    Messages:
    2,004
    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2009
    I also don't want to have to click "allow" every time I do something. I had an iBook for 4 years without virus protection and never got one.
    i configured my windows computer so i never have to explicitly "allow" or disallow something. but on mac i do have to repeat the administrator password anytime i install something. my pc ran 5+ years without virus or malware or firewall protection and i never received anything unintended.... (....o god im feeling compelled to get involved in these arguments)[​IMG] i like my mac mini a lot. i think osx is extremely polished and well executed. i like my windows computers a lot. neither are wholly or definitively better. if i had to pick one i would go windows because im more familiar with it /gingerly exiting thread... [​IMG]
     
  10. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    In this case it does have to do with the brand because this brand is a certain type of computer, a type that less people make viruses for. Also, viruses don't only come from attachments and downloads.

    I also don't want to have to click "allow" every time I do something. I had an iBook for 4 years without virus protection and never got one.


    That's pretty anecdotal evidence. I've probably had Windows running without third party anti-virus software for nearly a decade. No viruses. The threat of computer viruses is greatly blown out of proportion by both the media (who likes to sensationalize) and by people who have a financial stake in "protecting" people from them. IMO most of the big AV companies do more harm than good.

    Oh, and people don't make viruses for computers. I've never, for example, heard of a virus that only attacks the owners of Sony VAIOs. Many Macs also run Windows these days... do you think that a Mac running WinXP can't get a virus? [​IMG]

    I'm not sure what you mean by "click allow every time you do something". I don't have to. The things that I would conceivably have to click "allow" for are things like altering my registry and etc., which on occasion I will do - but I like that it tells me to double check what I'm doing in the more "advanced" parts of the software so I don't screw something up. Maybe a lot of the concerns you have about Windows are unfounded or blown out of proportion by people who don't really know what they are doing.

    Unless someone actually hacks into your computer and places files on your drive, then executes the code remotely without you knowing it, (an extremely unlikely scenario for the average user) then yes, a computer virus is a program that you - one way or another - have to install or allow onto your computer. A computer virus is, by definition, a user executable code. Not downloading suspicious programs, or opening unknown email attachments is 99.9 percent effective in protecting yourself from viruses. There have been cases where a virus is unknowingly carried in the software of a peripheral device ( digital picture frames had this problem a while ago) but you still have to install the software for it to have any effect on your computer.

    I'm just saying. Having a personal preference is fine and dandy. I have one too. But I'm not going to let you tell me the sky is red [​IMG]
     
  11. Recoil

    Recoil Senior member

    Messages:
    1,837
    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2007
    Location:
    Toronto
    That's pretty anecdotal evidence. I've probably had Windows running without third party anti-virus software for nearly a decade. No viruses. The threat of computer viruses is greatly blown out of proportion by both the media (who likes to sensationalize) and by people who have a financial stake in "protecting" people from them. IMO most of the big AV companies do more harm than good. Oh, and people don't make viruses for computers. I've never, for example, heard of a virus that only attacks the owners of Sony VAIOs. Many Macs also run Windows these days... do you think that a Mac running WinXP can't get a virus? [​IMG] I'm not sure what you mean by "click allow every time you do something". I don't have to. The things that I would conceivably have to click "allow" for are things like altering my registry and etc., which on occasion I will do - but I like that it tells me to double check what I'm doing in the more "advanced" parts of the software so I don't screw something up. Maybe a lot of the concerns you have about Windows are unfounded or blown out of proportion by people who don't really know what they are doing. Unless someone actually hacks into your computer and places files on your drive, then executes the code remotely without you knowing it, (an extremely unlikely scenario for the average user) then yes, a computer virus is a program that you - one way or another - have to install or allow onto your computer. A computer virus is, by definition, a user executable code. Not downloading suspicious programs, or opening unknown email attachments is 99.9 percent effective in protecting yourself from viruses. There have been cases where a virus is unknowingly carried in the software of a peripheral device ( digital picture frames had this problem a while ago) but you still have to install the software for it to have any effect on your computer. I'm just saying. Having a personal preference is fine and dandy. I have one too. But I'm not going to let you tell me the sky is red [​IMG]
    Your computer must be like Ninja, sneak about internet without any protection and avoid viruses. Good for you! [​IMG]
     
  12. GQgeek

    GQgeek Senior member

    Messages:
    17,933
    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2002
    Location:
    Canuckistan
    Your computer must be like Ninja, sneak about internet without any protection and avoid viruses. Good for you! [​IMG]
    Most consumers these days are behind a firewall that comes embedded in their dsl/cable modem, so he's right to a point. There's no magical way that the newest worm/virus can make its way through your firewall. Unless you go to sites that are loaded with malware (porn sites, illegal download sites,etc), then generally speaking, you could probably get away without using an anti-virus. Most viruses are probably spread through email attachments. It's pretty simple not to open email from people you don't know. That said, I still run an AV because i'm paranoid about computer security, but I haven't seen a virus in a really long time (since i stopped downloading pirated software, many years ago).
     
  13. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Senior member

    Messages:
    17,227
    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    I'm picking up the 27" iMac tomorrow. Thanks for the good thread, all.
     
  14. phoenixrecon

    phoenixrecon Senior member

    Messages:
    2,441
    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2009
    Location:
    In some dude's court
    wait your dell got hit by a virus and there was no way to restore it

    EL OH EL


    macs are overpriced outdated components that can be beat price to performance wise any day of the week by a pc.

    Also if you get a virus you suck at the internet and shouldn't look at those naughty websites. end of story.
     
  15. thekunk07

    thekunk07 Senior member

    Messages:
    18,145
    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Location:
    nyc
    me too! good luck with it.

    I'm picking up the 27" iMac tomorrow. Thanks for the good thread, all.
     
  16. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Senior member

    Messages:
    17,227
    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    wait your dell got hit by a virus and there was no way to restore it

    EL OH EL


    macs are overpriced outdated components that can be beat price to performance wise any day of the week by a pc.

    Also if you get a virus you suck at the internet and shouldn't look at those naughty websites. end of story.


    Your reading comprehension is terrific.
     
  17. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Senior member

    Messages:
    17,227
    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    me too! good luck with it.

    Nice! Same to you.
     
  18. ceaton

    ceaton Senior member

    Messages:
    142
    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2006
    Location:
    British Columbia by day, Washington by mail.
    I have a 24 inch one (perfect for two documents side by side plus some toolbars), and I'm not really sure I'd want a larger screen, it would be too much like sitting too close to a TV.
     
  19. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Senior member

    Messages:
    17,227
    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    I got the iMac last Sunday. It is amazing.
     
  20. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    I got the iMac last Sunday. It is amazing.

    Is it incredible? Is it everything you've hoped and dreamed? Is it a category leading, game changing best of the best computer, with an unparalleled computing experience, and the very best design for a computer ever thought of by man?

    I hope you, as a user, can live up to that kind of pressure. [​IMG]
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by