Conservative Business Dress

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Mar 29, 2007.

  1. marc237

    marc237 Senior member

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    I think you're wrong here bub.

    I might have gone with "mack."
     
  2. Nantucket Red

    Nantucket Red "Mr. Fashionista"

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    Maybe it's just me or my less advanced sense of humor but it seems like the only purpose of this thread is to ridicule a certain style of dress even if Manton's original post was done in a serious manner as I assume he owns that suit. While I actually like the ensemble on the whole I cannot help but to comment that the jacket might be more presentable if it were stored stuffed with paper as I have previously discussed and have been doing so since, as this jacket's shoulders look a bit rumpled to my eye which sort of defeats the purpose of dressing conservatively in a professional business environment.

    Love stuffing things with newspaper, dontcha Kasper?
     
  3. Con Biz Dresser

    Con Biz Dresser Well-Known Member

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    I think you're wrong here bub. See, in a conservative business environment you're supposed to look like you're so busy that you don't give a shit what you're wearing and the rumpled shoulders help advance that look. If your suit is not rumpled anywhere it makes you look like some dandy pantywaste who spends more time crumpling newspaper and putting it in his jacket sleeves than he does wheeling and dealing. Got it?

    I'm sorry but I don't agree with that statement at all and to be honest I have never actually seen such rumpled shoulders even from the guys that I work with who wear Kenneth Cole suits. I have been stuffing my jackets just as a precaution and disagree strongly that looking messy has anything to go with dressing conservatively for a professional business environment, at least outside of being Bill Gates.
     
  4. redcaimen

    redcaimen Bigtime

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    It's a country which surfaces in European history from time to time, but rarely in the same place.

    Ha. Thats a good one.
     
  5. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Kasper, I'll humor you a little, on the off chance that -- just this once -- you can be gotten through to.

    Newspapers won't do what you want to that suit. The reason the shoulders look "rumpled" is because they have no padding. No amount of newspaper or anything else will change that. Maybe stuffing it to the gills will work fine as long as the thing is not worn, but before the jacket is put on, the paper has to come out. And then all that fine effort will have been for naught.

    And shoulder padding is NOT CONSERVATIVE. It is for designers and goombahs.
     
  6. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    And shoulder padding is NOT CONSERVATIVE. It is for designers and goombahs.


    Shouder padding is for goombahs while none is for cumpa'.
     
  7. Con Biz Dresser

    Con Biz Dresser Well-Known Member

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    Kasper, I'll humor you a little, on the off chance that -- just this once -- you can be gotten through to.

    Newspapers won't do what you want to that suit. The reason the shoulders look "rumpled" is because they have no padding. No amount of newspaper or anything else will change that. Maybe stuffing it to the gills will work fine as long as the thing is not worn, but before the jacket is put on, the paper has to come out. And then all that fine effort will have been for naught.

    And shoulder padding is NOT CONSERVATIVE. It is for designers and goombahs.



    Manton, I appreciate the effort you are making but I have to go with my own professional experience as I feel comfortable that my taste level and think that my personal opinions on conservative dress are appropriate for the business environment that I am familiar with. To be honest I have never seen a suit jacket without some sort of shoulder padding and if I did I don’t think I would purchase one no matter how conservative it appeared on the hanger in the store, knowing that it could look so rumpled in the shoulders while being worn.
     
  8. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

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    Never mind.
     
  9. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    K-man, clearly your idea of sartorial conservatism is the bastard love child of un-conservative parents. To use the political analogy, it's an oxymoron like "Progressive Conservatism" or "Tory Democracy." Call it whatever you want, but riotous colors and mattress padding are not conservative. Words still have meaning.
     
  10. Nantucket Red

    Nantucket Red "Mr. Fashionista"

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    Manton, I appreciate the effort you are making but I have to go with my own professional experience as I feel comfortable that my taste level and think that my personal opinions on conservative dress are appropriate for the business environment that I am familiar with. To be honest I have never seen a suit jacket without some sort of shoulder padding and if I did I don't think I would purchase one no matter how conservative it appeared on the hanger in the store, knowing that it could look so rumpled in the shoulders while being worn.

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  11. Holdfast

    Holdfast Senior member

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    Priceless thread!

    The gorge is way too high to be truly conservative, though.
     
  12. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    The gorge is way too high to be truly conservative, though.
    Sounds like someone else is looking to get his @$$ kicked. Watch it, limey boy.
     
  13. mack11211

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    I might have gone with "mack."


    Hey.
     
  14. Con Biz Dresser

    Con Biz Dresser Well-Known Member

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    K-man, clearly your idea of sartorial conservatism is the bastard love child of un-conservative parents. To use the political analogy, it's an oxymoron like "Progressive Conservatism" or "Tory Democracy." Call it whatever you want, but riotous colors and mattress padding are not conservative. Words still have meaning.

    Manton, you could make your argument more respectfully if you really want to make a sincere point. While I do know that words still have meaning I can't help feeling that you seem to be minting your own, but maybe you are just trying to be sarcastic which I am only catching up with now.
     
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    thinman Senior member

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    The original ensemble is not at all conservative because it calls attention to itself in a blatant attempt to appear utterly bland. By doing so, it screams: "look at me, I'm conservative!!".

    Drinking again Manton?
     

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