Connoisseurs of burberrys' vintage, I kindly request your help.

[lalluvianocesara]

I must begin by saying that I know that there is a subject specifically for this type of consultation, but yesterday I posted my doubts and so far nobody has answered me (something logical, on the other hand, given the short time elapsed).

However, and going forward that my intention is not to fill the forum with repeated and unusable posts, I come to your help because of a couple of reasons, the first the high price I paid for the garment, and the second, the fact that it is a birthday gift (not for me) and that the date of it is approaching.

I reproduce below, slightly modified, the post that I already raised in the relevant thread, in case someone would be kind enough to help me:


The issue in question is that I decided to buy a Mac Burberrys, I do not usually buy vintage but I chose to do so because the seller had very good reviews.

However, now that I receive the garment, and even though I think it's a piece of very good quality, I have serious doubts about the authenticity of the garment due to the following reasons:

1. The appearance of the garment (it looks almost new)
2. The Burberrys' neck label is slightly off-center, and sewn with yellow thread (although I have seen this type of seam in other vintage Made in Spain articles of the same brand listed on other websites).
3. The absence of interior pockets and the strip used to hang the garment on the hanger.
4. The absence of the blue label detailing the material composition of the garment, or failing that, the white embroidered patch on which should appear something like 100% cotton.
5. The lining seems to me too clear in terms of color to be the nova chek (although I have seen multiple variations of the same looking in the web it is more similar to the new Burberry brit line in my opinion)
6. The lining of the inside of the arms is a continuation (exactly the same as the rest of the raincoat), I don't know if this is normal, but most of the vintage items I've seen on the internet have this part of the camellia/brown lining in this area.

As I am not an expert in the matter (it is my first garment of this mark) and as all the information that I have about the requirements to recognize the authenticity of the same one comes from videos and articles of Internet, I come to you for if you could help me to leave of doubts.

I enclose the photos below, and thank you in advance for any comments or help. I can add photos on request of the specific parts you ask me.

Cordial greetings.

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[Ich_Dien]

I'm no expert but it does look dodgy to me. Those labels in no way correspond to the nova check used in the coat.

It honestly looks to me like they have been harvested from an older garment and attached into a newer (non Burberry) one. Not only that but the lining is quite clearly attached after the coat itself has been made.

 

[lalluvianocesara]

I'm no expert but it does look dodgy to me. Those labels in no way correspond to the nova check used in the coat.

It honestly looks to me like they have been harvested from an older garment and attached into a newer (non Burberry) one. Not only that but the lining is quite clearly attached after the coat itself has been made.

Thank you very much for your prompt response, the theory of sewing labels seems likely, the lining I have no idea where it can be appreciated and seems too elaborate for the price that has had the garment.

However, there is one thing that makes me very strange now that I have started to investigate a little and I have two theories:

1. Or there is a subsidiary of Burberrys' in Spain that used to make garments with those labels and that lining in that colour in the past.

2. Or there is a factory in Spain (or outside of Spain even though they say they are here) that produces a lot of fakes made in Spain with the same label and lining format as the different Burberrys' models.

For this I base myself on the following, many of the garments I find with the same label (Burberrys' Made in Spain with the numeration that comes with mine) have old label and the same embroidered patch sewn in exactly the same way, with the same thread color and the same type of seam, as well as lacking the blue composition label and having a lining very similar in color to the new models.

I add a link of two models, one the same, and another totally different from mine, both from another seller (obviously), but with the same characteristics, in case someone else would like to help me when in doubt or know more about the subject:

https://es.wallapop.com/item/gabardina-de-hombre-burberrys-213312414

https://es.wallapop.com/item/gabardina-de-hombre-de-marca-298557556

Thanks in advance.

 

[Ich_Dien]

Look; I've responded before and I'm probably going to be the only one to do so by the looks of things. I truly doubt there is "someone else" willing to chime in here. On Styleforvm these things usually go unanswered beyond a simple message saying - "Fake".

Firstly: the idea of anyone charging €365 for that Burberry coat is ridiculous. In my opinion they are all fake, including yours.

Burberry changed from that logo years ago, we are talking many many years ago, tens of years ago.

I believe all of the garments you have listed are fake.

You disagree with my idea that the linings have been added after the coat was made; it is quite clear to anyone with a knowledge of clothing this is the case.

I'm sorry but from someone who is intimate with the brand, albeit not a specialist in your everyday mass produced Burberry; this is my opinion.