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Conan may be replaced by Leno

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Dentata, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. embowafa

    embowafa Senior member

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    Noooooo Conandooooo!!!!!!
     


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    TMZ has been pretty accurate in their big time stories (i.e. Michael Jackson death, Tiger Woods cheating, Chris Henry death) so I'm going to go with TMZ on this one until I read something contradicting them.

    It's pretty sad when America's most accurate news source is probably TMZ.
     


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    IMO, this does solidify Leno (or at least NBC) being a slime ball. Maybe informs a bit of what happened with Letterman too, who was a friend of Leno's until Leno screwed him.
     


  4. HelloIDistance

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    I just hope they don't get rid of Jimmy Fallon. I find his show more entertaining than either Conan or Jay Leno. For some reason, I feel like Conan's become an unfunny dickwad since he took over the Tonight Show. Where he used to be funny, he just now seems like a pompous douche towards his guests.

    Jimmy Fallons show is entertaining? It's fucking horrible. I'd rather watch Martha Stewart.

    Hopefully Conan continues late night on another network because that's where I'll be watching. This is ridiculous and I'm going to laugh when Leno comes back on and is no longer the ratings leader of late night. Conan had to deal with a shitty lead-in to his show because Leno's tanked. NBC has no brains.
     


  5. chronoaug

    chronoaug Boston Hipster (Dropkick Murphy)

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    Holy shit. Did anyone see Jay Leno show tongiht? He had Jimmy Kimmel on for a "10 questions" celebrity thing he always does and Jimmy ripped Leno a new asshole on Leno's show the entire time. He was pretty brutal and it was awkward for leno. Someone has to find a clip.



    Also, the past 2 weeks since this started going down, Conan has been hilarious. He has always been funny and smart but obviously had to tone some stuff down and "play the game" a bit to progress in his career. Has been cutting loose lately and is great. Kinda like during the writer's strike where he pretty much improvised everything and went with most all new material (since the writer's owned some of the standard bits) and that month of shows was really funny too. Also, he has been really funny and brutal in ripping NBC and Jay

    If conan could go somewhere else where he had a lot more freedom, i'd love to see that show. He's always best in his improvised things where he goes somewhere with just him and a camera like the california winery thing from a year ago. There's always a game to be played on big networks especially one as (poorly) micromanaged like nbc
     


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    yeah, it does feel like Conan toned his schtick down for the Leno-lovin' market NBC wanted to retain, ergo he's left with nothing but some remnants of his self-hate lines.... andy also seems to be livelier than usual since this thing blew up... I do hope they retain the whole cast, including the max weinberg 7 when they move to another network. leno can suck on kevin eubanks' dick from 11:30 onwards.
     


  7. embowafa

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    Anyone who listens to Howard Stern knows he's been saying this shit about Jay Leno for YEARS. Now, the rest of the world gets to see what kind of a chode-monger he is. Listen to these:
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  8. chronoaug

    chronoaug Boston Hipster (Dropkick Murphy)

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    Yea, everyone has disliked jay leno for awhile and now the comedians and entertainers don't have to hide it anymore. Would be nice to see a bunch of them blackball leno and refuse to do the show. There are so many different late night talk shows now that it'd be easy to do all but leno and still get good plugs for their projects. Wouldn't be surprised to see a fair amount of people do that here is the big link. Watch Kimmel destroy Leno on leno's own show. Jimmy seemed like he was trying to be sorta nice, then leno was still being a kind of a dick so kimmel just started unloading on him
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    None of these hosts are the reason I watch the shows on occasion. I would only watch if they were interviewing someone I liked, and I couldn't care less which one of them was doing the interview. I liked Headlines, and some of Conan's bits too, but they were hardly the reason I ever tuned in.
     


  10. chronoaug

    chronoaug Boston Hipster (Dropkick Murphy)

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    Honestly, listen to Rosie's rant about leno and it's the reason i never tune in to leno and never have. Also, the same celebrities go on pretty much all the shows so it's not that big a deal. There's always the occasionl exclusive but even then it's not a big deal


    This whole thing really does have me kinda upset. Conan for the last few years has been one of the very few shows I dvr and then at some point during free time or on the weekend i'll watch, usually together with my gf who i've been with for awhile. It was always nice watching it together because we both enjoyed the show and him a lot. Even episodes that weren't all that funny were still good for mindless relaxing and he is a smart, likeable guy who won my heart as a comedy writer for glory years of snl and simpsons Now even if conan jumped to fox, he probably wouldn't start till sometime in 2011 assuming things work out well for him. Also, he had growing pains the first few months but was finally starting to come into his own with his new show until all this.


    Still, the ratings argument can't really be made because Conan has zero lead in like NBC has always had with ER, law and order, svu and all that stuff. If the Jay Leno show at 1135 back in its heyday took a 6 month hiatus and then came back with terrible variety show in the 10-11slot to lead him in, i guarantee you his ratings would've dropped and he'd lose the late night battle. If conan was just given a real lead in show and left alone by nbc for a year or two, everything would've been fine and he'd be neck and neck and perhaps beating letterman. Leno's ratings were not good at all when he started hosting the tonight show. It always takes awhile for someone to gather their audience.

    I don't see this really working out for nbc either. Leno alienated a lot of latenight watchers and then others probably grew to like kimmel, letterman or maybe feel bad for conan so will watch him if he goes to fox. Leno, nbc, and the tonight show's reputation got hurt pretty bad


    The real shame though is conan. Not only did he have his dream stripped from him for no reason at all but it pretty much ruins his career. He'll forever be branded as the guy who was kicked off the tonight show. Even if he goes to fox and does well, for the next few years he's damaged goods. He's ridiculously intelligent and brilliantly funny (plus relatively young compared to leno/letterman) so he can still have a future but it's a shame
     


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    Here's the vid of Kimmel destroying Leno on his own show if Chrono's embed isn't working:
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    "Jay, my mom's watching this show.....oh wait, no she's not.....no one is"
     


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    Kimmel went in..
     


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    I have watched a couple of episodes of Conan and he is really skewering NBC and being quite funny as well. I think he really got shafted.
     


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