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During Amazon Prime Day, Kirby sent an email out to subscribers first telling people not shop at Amazon for shoe products and telling them of his own Prime Day sale. Well, “Prime Day” is a registered trademark of Amazon, and using it without permission for an online sale of your own is a willful violation and shows dishonesty.Just out of curiosity - could u elaborate
It’s even better with the 25% CU lifetime discountI think buying Saphir from Cobble Union is a good choice, though unfortunately they don't offer all colors of cream or wax.
I don't know that I'd call Kirby a "trademark violator" or not shop from him because of his Prime Day sale. Everyone is free to do what they'd like, but plenty of other companies also had sales, Pierre Henry even called their a Prime Prime Day.
Kirby's crime was lack of originality - but not misleading, it was a sale and no one was going to confuse his products with amazon's offering. I'm going to have little sympathy for a company the size of Amazon. I like his content, and he has some good products, don't get me wrong I think there'd be good reasons to not shop there, but as the kids say "it's not that deep" (anyone feel free to PM me).
With that said, I think we should focus on @Cobbler Union, their wonderful products, and great customer service.
I understand the trademark, what I am saying is that it does not appear to be misleading or that big a deal, at least to me. It's sort of like the NFL's trademark on Super Bowl, or any number of similar trademarks. Or how Rolex used trademark recently to stop a company that was doing aftermarket dial changes (and, the customization retailer, was transparent about their process). I don't find trademark disputes so black and white, but if you, or anyone else, does that's fine.It’s even better with the 25% CU lifetime discount
Oh, and it is more than a crime of lack of originality. It’s actually a protected term backed by law: https://www.mixdexhq.com/shopify/caution-prime-day-is-a-trademark/
Failure to defend a trademark can result in loss of that trademark. This is why Band-aid started the commercial with lyrics, “I’m stuck on band-aid brand.” The use of the word “brand” was to reinforce that this is a brand, since the term was at risk of being lost as standard use for a bandage. The same thing nearly happened to Kleenex, which almost lost its trademark to colloquial use without defenseI understand the trademark, what I am saying is that it does not appear to be misleading or that big a deal, at least to me. It's sort of like the NFL's trademark on Super Bowl, or any number of similar trademarks. Or how Rolex used trademark recently to stop a company that was doing aftermarket dial changes (and, the customization retailer, was transparent about their process). I don't find trademark disputes so black and white, but if you, or anyone else, does that's fine.
As I said, if that's a good enough reason for you to stop supporting him, then that is your choice and I can respect that. AND Cobbler Union is a great place to pick up shoe care products.
I'm not here to defend Kirby (I can give reasons to buy from him, and not to buy from him), it just seemed like an interesting perspective to me (again anyone can DM me, because I would like to avoid derailing this thread).
I was merely offering a different perspective (to me, specifically, it does not seem like that big of a deal) and context (I'm not sure someone would confuse Amazon with Kirby, or vice versa, and Amazon is plenty profitable). One can agree to disagree on this - perfectly fine.
What we can, hopefully, agree on is that Cobbler Union is doing good work and offer excellent customer service.
After two weeks of waiting, it finally comes to the end of this story. Here are the replacements I received from CU today:BUYERS BE AWARE
There is something seriously wrong with Cobbler Union's quality control. To anyone looking to purchase a pair of shoes from Cobbler Union, I think you should know my experience beforehand.
I participated in the Honorary Investor program a while back and still had some gift card balance left. I decided to get a pair of Chelseas, so I made my order on August 23rd. Little did I know what I was getting myself into.
I received the pair on September 10th, and the right boot came with a scuff on the heel. Ugh, that's unfortunate, I thought. I shipped them back for replacement. Since the Ritz last fitted alright, I made another order of a pair of Guillaume balmoral boots. This was on September 11th.
A picture of the scuff. It would be fine if it's on a pair of factory seconds, but not on a pair of firsts.
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The pair of "Guillaume" was shipped directly from Spain and received on September 21st. To my surprise, when I opened the box, pulled the boots out of the bags, a pair of beautiful jumper boots in Utah leather appeared in front of me. And, yeah, it came in a totally wrong size as well. That's unfortunate, I thought. So I returned the pair, and Danielle, the customer service rep, promised me a jar of cream as a compensation. Not that the cream would make much of a difference; at least, the attitude is respectable.
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Then it came to October 2nd, the day I received my pair of Guillaume in the right leather, the right last, and the right size. How could anything go wrong now? Just as I was attempting to put on the right boot, I heard a little thread tearing, and then, the pull loop snapped right off. I was astonished and speechless. They'll be going to Atlanta tomorrow, and my Chelsea replacement will be delivered, too. Wish me luck, guys.
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I hope my disappointing experience is at least entertaining for you. Keep in mind what you might be getting into before ordering your next pair of Cobbler Union.