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Clothing Pet Peeves - what are yours?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Phil, Nov 2, 2004.

  1. arvi

    arvi Senior Member

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    well let's say ESPECIALLY if tie is Nicole Miller & most Hermes [​IMG]
     


  2. dah328

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    Completely agree.  I think the biggest thing is that no men wear good shoes anymore.  The unpolished, black, square-toed, rubber sole shoe is ubiquitous, even with expensive suits.  Beyond that, I see way too many guys buttoning the bottom button on jackets.

    On the other hand, it's pretty easy to distinguish oneself as well-dressed around here.

    dan
     


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    biggest annoyance - jacket sleeves too long. I hate it. And RTW companies seem to be making sleeves longer and longer for reasons I cannot fathom and people who buy them aren't getting them altered. News flash, people - jacket sleeves coming to the middle of your palms looks so ridiculous. second annoying thing goes hand in hand with the orangutan sleeve people and that's hanging a bag over the shoulder of your suit. if you are wearing a suit, carry your bag. don't sling it over your shoulder thereby totally screwing the drape of your jacket (and probably not doing wonders for the fabric or padding either). clunky, ungly shoes there's others, but those are the main three
     


  4. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Oh, this look makes my teeth grate. This was the old American jackass look. The new one (vertical striped shirt, jeans, black sneaker/shoe monstrosity) is even worse.

    That, and anything preppy. Classic American I can abide. Preppy makes me want to dim mack the sumbitch.
     


  5. Nonk

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    Windsor knots, especially the current craze for them to be as large as possible. This is a cultural thing, but I was brought up to believe that no British Gentleman would ever wear a windsor knot after the abdication crisis, so I am a four in hand kind of guy.

    Any novelty item, especially socks and ties. The wearers seem to think it screams that they have character, but I view it as the complete opposite.


    My favourite one, if that is the right phrase, is those who wear suits that have been supplied with a manufacturers label tacked on the sleeve for display purposes, and do not remove it before wearing it in public-hilarious, and I have seen it a few times.


    Finally on a personal note, the woman who bumped into me (completely her fault) at a party soaking my £300 wool sports jacket and light brown Church's custom grades in red wine, and then proceeded to create a whole scene while she got everyone to join in with the panic as she worried about getting the wine off her £5 tee shirt. Manners work both ways women. I would have liked to use the cloth briefly too you know.
     


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    Monogrammed shirt cuffs create for me nearly the same reaction as would a dagger through my heart. Those cuffs are showy, obvious, lacking in discretion, immodest, and demonstrate a complete failure to understand the beauty of a subtle gesture.
     


  7. JLibourel

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    I could go on for quite a while on this, but I have to get to the polls and be about my employer's business shortly. Of my pet hates:

    Beyond the typical "slovenly California" look rife here, I would say I particularly detest men beyond their early 20s wearing "kid" clothes--oversize, garish T-shirts, baggy culottes, etc.

    Among more "dressy" apparel, I detest the practice of yanking the tie knot down and undoing the collar button. Second to that, I dislike seeing a man in shirt and tie without a coat--it just sort of screams "cheap retail clerk" or "grocery store manager"--not that these aren't useful occupations, honorable in their modest way.

    Finally, evening wear worn in the daytime. I'll give somebody a pass for a 4:00 p.m. wedding, but tuxedoes at a morning wedding--as I witnessed outside a local church Saturday morning (and worn by people who looked as if they might know better)--are unpardonable. Oh well, I see men in flip-flops, T-shirts and shorts going to the regular Sunday services there.
     


  8. OnTheMark

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    (gregory @ 02 Nov. 2004, 09:10) It is easy to generate the list. The New York City subway provides tons of inspiration for me everyday.
    Completely agree. Â I think the biggest thing is that no men wear good shoes anymore. Â The unpolished, black, square-toed, rubber sole shoe is ubiquitous, even with expensive suits. Â Beyond that, I see way too many guys buttoning the bottom button on jackets. On the other hand, it's pretty easy to distinguish oneself as well-dressed around here. dan
    It is amazing being here in Manhattan, oestensibly the fashion capital of America-and then seeing dozens of men every day working in expensive skyscrapers wearing cheap suits. What amazes me even more is how some of the men on the local news stations dress like dogs, my pet peeve is men who are on TV and can't dress themselves: Weatherman Jim Castillo on the local FOX affiliate wears nicely tailored three-button SB suits. HOWEVER-he religiously buttons the bottom button, completely ruining the line of the torso and making it appear as if he has a gut. Why do guys insist on doing this? It makes you look riddiculous. Also, John Discepillo on the same station usually looks great, but lately has started to shop at Pimps r Us for his shirts and ties. On Sunday he was wearing a blood-red shirt with a red, black and yellow tie-he looked like a total jackass. Over on WCBS, they have this new sports guy Chris Wragge who just moved here from LA and has not made the wardrobe adjustment...he has these strange, tiny collars on his shirts..is this some LA style I am not hip to? Also, he wears these unbelieveably loud sportcoats (at least I HOPE they are sportcoats...God help us all if the pants under the desk match), like a bold red and green pattern...looks like he is about to host a 1970s Xmas special. Wouldn't you think the news directors of these stations would hire a style consultant to make sure the men look good? Since they are generally only seen from the chest up, so much focus goes on the suit coat, shirt and tie-how hard is it to make them look good?
     


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    ROFL. This board is the last place I'd have expected a dim mak reference.
     


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    I had a schoolmate that did just that. What's more is that he complained to us friends that he had had to refasten the label as it came off. I suspect he's still wearing this suit - he's one of the cheapest people I know. He's 36 now and still dating 20-25 year old girls that don't know any better yet.

    Peeves ? The usual I guess. Cheap shoes, too long sleeves, unbuttoned gauntlet buttons and ties that were in fashion 5 years ago but still servicable.

    B
     


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    Mock turtlenecks. Do they look good on anybody?
     


  12. Leo Jay

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    I can't imagine why should I care one bit how anyone else dresses... unless they work for me or represent me in some capacity, in which case I dictate how they must dress, so... no pet peeves. Simple.
     


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    (LA Guy @ 02 Nov. 2004, 08:44) Preppy makes me want to dim mack the sumbitch.
    ROFL. Â This board is the last place I'd have expected a dim mak reference.
    Ditto... perhaps I should use it on Mark Dacascos to stop him hosting my show. Things I hate: RTW lace jabots The new American jackasses wearing untucked dress shirts with those rounded tails hanging out, usually boxy. These same usually wear the nasty painted-grain duck-foot square-toed shoes with honking (quacking?) big rubber soles. They seem to think they are cool and apparently no one their age thinks differently. To round out the look (the "full Kimmel", we can call it) there is the undershirt peeking out from the open neck of the untucked dress shirt. Thomas Pink -- apparently anyone can call themselves a Jermyn Street shirtmaker if they borrow some unrelated dead tailor's name and make shirts in the Third World with plastic buttons... and sell them at First World prices low-vamp loafers -- they don't look good on anyone, least of all on the middle-aged bourge salarymen who wear them (usually unpolished). So-called tailors like Thom Browne, Ozwald Boateng, Spencer Hart et al The Hermes tie as a badge of success -- c'mon, try a little. Buttondown collars with business suits Cufflinks with those tacky toggle backs, particularly on expensive cufflinks. Those nasty Ovadafut colorblock socks -- and the name is terrible too. Why can't Vivek Nagrani use his own name? Does he have Lifschitz syndrome?
     


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    Clergy who don't wear all black; anyone else who does.
     


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    Another general hate of mine is scruffiness. I remember when the national rail service in the UK was split up and privatised, and each region got a new for profit company to run their service. We had the usual rash of press releases and events to highlight this fact and each company commissioned a new uniform for staff, to be launched in a blaze of publicity. It is distressing to see a smart new uniform of blazer, slacks, shirt and tie, worn by a monosyllabic 19 year old dope, with his worn through to the white because they have never seen polish, accompanied by fossilised mud stains shoes, shirt tail hanging out over his deliberately baggy filthy trousers, tie around the midriff somewhere, and the blazer worn with all the pride of a tramp in his latest hessian sack. The greasy, unwashed hair, and acne just give the final tip over the edge I needed to refuse him when he asks me "URGGH, YOU WANNA SANDWICH?"

    Sorry for the rant, my point is that a blank cheque in Saville Row could not make a scruffy, dirty individual with no pride in himself look anything other than what he is, and conversely, those of us with limited funds can still look good with a bit of effort and pride. It is a pity that some employers do not realise this, and also realise in this world of declining standards that the way we present ourselves, and dress is an indication of how we will perform every task we do.



    Oh and finally people who wear belts, but when putting it on miss a loop or two. I can spot this at hundreds of yards and do not think well of them.


    And twisted shoe laces.

    And standing with hands in pockets.
     


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