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Classic Navy Peacoat by SchottNYC

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Soph, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. 6waters

    6waters Member

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    I am wear a 39 and the 40 was just right - the 38 was too tight and the 42 was way too big. I would say the fit is snug. There is no way I could fit a suit under it, but a reasonable heavy sweater fits fine. The arm holes are high and the sleeves are very slim. There is not a ton of extra material throughout the body. The sleeves fall mid-hand, right where I like them.

    If a coat can fit like a glove, this one does. The leather version is very heavy in weight, but the fit distributes it well. I don't know if it is the 'Naked Cowhide' finish or just the quality of the leather, but my impression is that the jacket broke-in and conformed to my body after a few wearings. Between the weight and the fit, I sort of feel like I am wearing a custom suit of armor when I have it on.
     
  2. josepidal

    josepidal Senior member

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    Hmmm. How does Schott compare to the Gloverall peacoats STP has been carrying, now available for about $160?
     
  3. Jovan

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    They are too stiff and short to wear over a suit jacket. that was not their purpose. Just wear them over thick wool sweaters.
    Mine is a little longer than suit jacket length, but probably because I had to size up.
     
  4. designprofessor

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    I had a peacoat once. One of the warmest jackets I've ever owned. I could pull that big collar up, button the top button and keep my face from freezing in the Feb. Oklahoma wind.
     
  5. thinman

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    I had a peacoat once. One of the warmest jackets I've ever owned. I could pull that big collar up, button the top button and keep my face from freezing in the Feb. Oklahoma wind.

    This is exactly why I'm shopping for one.[​IMG]
     
  6. tancredi

    tancredi Active Member

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    US Navy haven't been anything but a dark midnight (the navy still calls it blue, but it sure looks black) for a fair while -- my pater has been wearing them for 35+ years. On the melton vs. serge point -- the serge wears like iron, but tends to loose a bit of its texture after about three years of daily (winter) wear. The Melton (which some of the brand names might be using) will keep its texture, but can't possibly wear like the serge.
     
  7. poorboy

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    any of you guys experience any itching with the pea coats?
     
  8. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    any of you guys experience any itching with the pea coats?
    Yeah, the collar on a real one will scratch up your neck, but you get used to it, or grow a beard. And get a corn cob pipe while you're at it.

    Welcome, BTW.
     
  9. AlanC

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    Yeah, the collar on a real one will scratch up your neck, but you get used to it, or grow a beard. And get a corn cob pipe while you're at it.

    AAARRRRHHH!
     
  10. Joffrey

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    I remember trying one on at this local surplus store and was astonished by the stiff rough scratchy texture. It made me rethink going authentic. But then again do I want to pay $450 for a Seven's branded one (which was much more comfortable btw)?
     
  11. Get Smart

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    I know J is insistent on authentic navy issue peacoats, but I'm in the opposite camp. "Fashion" peacoats (JCrew, Banana R, Club Monaco etc) arent horribly expensive (as designer ones are) and are made of softer wool or cottons and usually have a better fit, altho alterations might still be necessary but not by much. My fiancee wears a naval peacoat and I hate the thing, the wool feels terrible and scratchy. There are times when I am tempted to hide it.
     
  12. Sartorially Challenged

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    Well, if you are man-enough... you can wear the authentic one. It IS originally military attire. [​IMG]
     
  13. Joffrey

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    Well, if you are man-enough... you can wear the authentic one. It IS originally military attire. [​IMG]


    Well technically speaking the people the military recruits most heavily are hardly men:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160406,00.html

    so...[​IMG]
     
  14. Sartorially Challenged

    Sartorially Challenged Senior member

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    Males of that age USED TO BE called young MEN. Though still young, they were expected to act like and be adults.

    I find it odd that our 17 and 18 year olds today are so much larger physically than the similarly-aged young men of, say, 20-30 years ago. But in terms of emotion and mental maturity, they seem to act more childishly than ever.

    Shoot, take it back 50-60 years, 16-17 year olds were enlisting in the military by lying about their ages.

    They were downright dimunitive by today's standard, but oftend carried heavy loads including a full size battle rifle (much heavier than today's pea shooters) and the attendant ammunition, and walked everywhere while eating a heck of lot less.

    I think we coddle our young men and women more today, and they act like infants in response.

    My goodness, I just realized I sound like a very old foggie!
     
  15. Jovan

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    It's good to know we get our dependable and unbiased information from Fox News. [​IMG]
     
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    It's good to know we get our dependable and unbiased information from Fox News. [​IMG]

    What about the article was biased? It was pretty straightforward. If anything, it discussed an issue in which many were upset with the government and military. According to prevailing wisdom Fox's alleged bias would cause them to suppress such a story.
     
  17. Jovan

    Jovan Senior member

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    Alan... I was clearly joking. Relax, man.
     
  18. Soph

    Soph Senior member

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    Hi Soph

    If you haven't run across this site yet in your research, you may want to check it out.

    http://www.leosleather.com/merchant/index.htm

    Leo's is a crammed little shop in Lakeview:

    2841 N. Clark St

    I also bought one of the leather peacoats a few years back and it was helpful to try it on before buying. The Schott jackets are quite impressive in their own right. They also have US Navy tags sewn in - I am not sure if that is an homage or if they are a real sourceThe shop is not what I expected, it is a tiny storefront and the inside is so crammed full of leather and wool coats that the proprietor has to retrieve the size and model you want. I haven't been in a few years, but it still looks that way when I pass it on the street.





    ---Well LeosLeather.com in Chicago is our place!
    I tried on authentic

    1. Navy issue at the army / navy store, the fabric could clean your sink (it is abrasive), its rough and tough. But there is something appealing about that. But .....

    2. Schott's (fabric seemed nicer to me)
    3. And finally, a Dark Brown Leather Schott Peacott

    ---The Leather is freaking amazing. The Schott website does it a great injustice. And here was the clencher after going back and forth. Leo BARTERS!!!
    Schott website has them at $410.

    Leo offered $380 first, so I said I'm not sure and I'd need gloves.
    We eventually reached a a deal of $350 for the coat
    and 1/2 off the 100% cashmere lined deerskin dark brown gloves that match the jacket perfectly. all for less than $410.!

    Bonus: He said he could get Schott wool peacots and sell them for $120 to $125 NEW!
    I'll post pics, it definitly pays to try them on. And Schott does an amazing leather peacot.! And I was pretty convinced to get a wool navy and left with the Dark Brown Leather. Great durable leather and nice stitching! It has a very rugged, masculine and high quality leather feel that the Navy wool couldn't match!
     
  19. Sartorially Challenged

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    Was the leather peacoat true to size? Did you get brown or black?

    How does the leather feel? Is the coat "slim-fitting"? What kind of shape does it have, e.g. straight down, waist-suppressed, etc.?

    Thanks.
     
  20. Soph

    Soph Senior member

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    Was the leather peacoat true to size? Did you get brown or black?

    How does the leather feel? Is the coat "slim-fitting"? What kind of shape does it have, e.g. straight down, waist-suppressed, etc.?

    Thanks.


    Pretty true to size. The 40 was too small and sleeves too short. Also I tried it on with a T shirt and felt okay with it. Which means with a sweater it should be trim.
    I got BROWN. My preference over black.
    The leather is very rugged, durable yet of a very high grade, in fact, it looks much better in the real world versus the picks. Somwhat straight a slight waist suppresion.

    Actually the 44 didn't fit me poorly as I'm pretty muscular in a lean way, but I went with a 42 for a more stremlined fit which is my preference. The leather outdoes the traditional wool, I was amazed at how much better it looked.
     

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