Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by TweedyProf, Oct 4, 2014.
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I like CD's jacket, a nice cool guncheck, triple patched. Nothing to add about the tie and the square that hasn't been said.
Worth contrasting with Betel's: the jackets in both are cool blue, without a lot of saturation. But the color contrast between trouser/jacket makes a big difference (though it looks like it might be an artifact of the light...cf. the sock pic).
Fit wise, seems pretty solid: clean shoulders, straight lapel lines, maybe slightly tight at the waist. What's the main complaint on that score?
You are a prof of fewer words than me, which works in your favor.
Let's explore tie options on that guncheck (MF's Eidos or CD's).
Knit or grossa in brown/rust.
Wools would be good but how rustic would you go (pretend MF's isn't a summer jacket, which it is)? Donegal? Herringbone? Or just solid with just a hint of wooly texture.
With gunchecks and shepherd's checks, almost any kind of patterned tie is out, because you have both a small repeating pattern and distinct lines in the jacket. I think herringbone can work, and donegal absolutely can, but a solid wool or cashmere is probably ideal for fall/winter fits.
Long-winded way of saying I agree with your assessment, Tweedy.
A certain someone disagrees with you, as do I.
I think it's more the green there that pulls the fit together. The pattern might seem more distracting if it was a full frontal. It's not adding a lot to the fit and works because t doesn't distract (then side shot actually mutes the tie pattern). Being contrary here though I love that fit. The mystery is what jacket Greg really wore that day.
Edit: now on the desktop: can see the pattern more clearly. Anyway, the green is the brilliant part.
Alas, I've been Lellouche'd. I think we're looking at a really excellent exception, but I can't fault that fit.
The shirt is even a micro check, which is more impressive. Who knows what the full shot would look like, but it sure looks good there.
True academic, making up verbs.
Yeah, it's in my save folder of fits. I've got green on the brain though.
One of my all time favourites.... Ok, i'll give it a go in explaining why I think this one works:
Contrary to the earlier posted gunchecks, this one has alternating colours that have a huge contrast in value, which makes it look more like a large checked jacket. So, the scale of the patterns - large scale check, medium scale tie and micro shirt makes for a combination that works. The greens and browns of jacket and tie subtly refer to each other, nicely integrating the whole fit. Any kind of PS would be a distraction, so is wisely left out here. Sublime.
Here's another for you all to dissect.
Greg's works better because there's a huge gap in the values of the jacket and tie, plus there's little contrast between the field and medallions on the tie.
The fit that Murl just posted would work a lot better without the cardigan, IMO. Otherwise, like Greg's the difference in value between tie and jacket deemphasizes the similarity of scale/pattern.
Uh, both of those are Greg...but I agree with you, but still like it. No explanation as to why...
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