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Classic Bomber Jacket

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Lafont, May 28, 2008.

  1. Soph

    Soph Senior member

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  2. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I like having Soph around, he makes my Belstaff collection look modest [​IMG]
     
  3. acidboy

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    I like having Soph around, he makes my Belstaff collection look modest [​IMG]

    useless w/o pics [​IMG]
     
  4. Lafont

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    Actually those underneath pockets I've referred to, as they don't really show, are quite incidental to the overall design of these Cooper jackets (and I suspect jackets of other makers) so great - they serve a useful purpose. Maybe the Navy guys weren't supposed to appear with hands in their side jacket pockets, I don't know, but it's comfortable at times. When I was in Army ROTC in 1966-7 I recall one of the rules when we were wearing our "officer's uniform" was not to walk with our hands in our pants pockets. Hmmm...[​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I must admit that I LOL'd reading their description of the Lawrence jacket ( http://www.belstaff.net/index.php?pa...art&Itemid=179 ) , allegedly favored by "D.H. Lawrence" -- I'm pretty sure they meant Lawrence of Arabia (T.E. Lawrence) rather than Lawrence of the Labia.

    Sons & Lovers in Aquba?

    Apparently Belstaff reads RJman as they've changed the description now.
     
  6. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Sons & Lovers in Aqaba?

    Apparently Belstaff reads RJman as they've changed the description now.

    Note to self: Use powers for good.

    I think TE Lawrence was more of a lover of the sons, especially if they beat him.
     
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    My thought on "classic" means "real". So I went to my closet and pulled out my jacket, which was given to me by my father on my 18th birthday. He flew for the USN as a fighter pilot in the Marines, starting in about 1953. So the coat is about 55 years old. And it is obviously 100% authentic. It is this type of jacket: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...80&mode=linear Except mine (and this is the cool part) has the squadron patches still on the coat. They had taken them off the coat, and my mother had put them in a "keepsake" type frame. But my dad had her sew them back on the coat when he gave it to me. The label reads: Burea of Aeronaltics U.S.N. Jacket, Intermediate G-1 Specification Mil-J-7823 (AER) Cagleco Sportswear Contract No. N383s-92NA Size 46 It fits great (and my normal U.S. suit coat size is 42 regular) So me, that is a classic flight jacket. He didn't fly bombers (although he could), he flew fighters. After service he flew commercial for 33 years. Had one of the "cuban hijackers" back in the 1970's tried to hijack his plane they would have been in for quite a surprise... courtesy of his service revolver which a Marine keeps with him for life.
     
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    Please excuse my ignorance but could you please define "blouson?" I assume it's of French origin. Difference betwen bomber and blouson? I haven't been running much into that name of apparel.[​IMG]
     
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    Please excuse my ignorance but could you please define "blouson?" I assume it's of French origin. Difference betwen bomber and blouson? I haven't been running much into that name of apparel.[​IMG]

    blouson [blew-zon]
    Noun
    a short loose jacket with a tight-fitting waist [French]
     
  11. Lafont

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    Sure, but concerning the ad you just attached, how does the "blouson" type of jacket relate to the bomber Or perhaps even the biker jacket? How much is the term used in the U.S? Much more in the UK?
     
  12. acidboy

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    Blouson is an old term... even Baracuta G9s back then were called blouson jackets.
     
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    I don't know whether it would be classic or not but I think suede works fine as well. It is more versatile IMHO.

    I like this one from Polo Ralph Lauren's Blue Label. It was available in Fall 2007 season for (as far as I remember) 699 dollars, but it reduced to approx. 250 dollars after X-mas. Interestingly the very same jacket with the very same MSRP started to be sold in this spring season. I don't know whether you can still find in the stores though or whether they are currently on sale. (BTW, although, as noted above, I think that suede bomber would be versatile, for this particular RL jacket, I think you can only wear it in winter and early spring or so because the wool fabric on the waist and on the sleeves as well as the lining will keep you warm)
     
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    I think of suede as a whole different ballgame....
    For those of you fortunate enough to find "Classic Style" magazine, I saw one again last night in a Barnes & Noble and there was a four-page article on the A2- bomber. Very nice. One brand discussed was Good Wear, which at least one of you is familiar with.
    It's kind of hard to find on the web - do any of you know difinitively what became of the Cooper company (once actually with a good Fifth Avenue address) that made these - military as well as civilian - flight jackets? Was it bought out by another company that still makes them? From everything I've seen the company definitely no longer exists as such.
     
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    'Saw an A-2 Cooper flight jacket in a shop yesterday. It had the orange Cooper label (not like my Cooper label at all) and a velcro rectangular piece on the front. Label said it was made for the U.S. Air Force.
    What's the story with the velcro? What was supposed to be attached there? Any idea what years this jacket might be from? They were asking $100. I think I got a better deal with my G-1; I like the feel of the leather better, I don't want to add something to the front, particularly (though I suppose I would were I happy with a jacket that came with the velcro), and I guess I like the G-1 look better with the fur collar (jacket stands out more). But then there's nothing saying mine was made for the military (and I can't say I really care, but I realize that's a big to-do for some - particularly if it's from a war). At least I think the label for the one on sale said that.[​IMG]
     
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    The beginning of the 21st century was only sixteen years ago. Were cockpits unenclosed as recently as that?
     
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    velcro is to attach the pilots name (and rank i think). civvy jackets usually don't have that.
     

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