I figured I'd give it a shot and used some of my wife's stain stick shout thing, some detergent, and a splash of bleach....and threw them in the warm wash. They are now drying on the window sill with newspaper stuffed in 'em, and surprisingly, so far, they look, kinda brand new! Suede in a washing machine? with bleach? yep. Good story. My sand suedes get somewhat nasty, viewed up close, before I lose interest and trade them in for another pair. I've considered running them through the dishwasher but never thought of putting them in the washing machine. Good to hear it worked out.