we only roll with duponts here. everyone else, get the fuck out. i'm kidding. but really. a lot of guys here have dupont xtends (now maxijets - terrible name). i love mine. strong flame, lights every time, etc. $150ish online. i have an assortment of lighters with the dupont being the most expensive and it has been by far the best performing. and +1000 on vector butane. it'll take a $2 lighter and turn it into a welding torch.