Must be bang-for-your-buck night at the Gnattys. Both of those are great values. I gave that AB Tempus another shot today. Much better! Full flavored, lots of pepper and coffee. Burn still sucked a little, but not as bad as the first one I had. Definitely worth trying. lol, yes, you could call it that, but the Patel Brothers robustos here are close to $10, which is pretty middle of the road in terms of price. This is one of my favorite cigars these days, and my go to when I want a consistent, flavorful smoke. The Lot B was better then I remembered, it's been about 6 months since I cracked that one. It was pretty good, but I am surprised it was that old, it was really aggressive for a cigar with age on it. Do you recall what the name of the cigar was? Have you ever had a Padilla Dominus? It was kind of like that, but less sweet. I don't think that Obsidians are worth tracking down, but if you get stuff from Cbid you may as well pay $5 for one and tack it on to your order. Had one of the Dominus and just did not like it at all. Wonder if that was my version of your Tempus and worth another shot? Somebody recommend me something there's no chance in hell I've tried (most of you guys should have a pretty good idea of my usuals) in a robusto. Medium to full, preferably full, with lots of smoke and good burn.