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Cheapness... What people would and won't do to save a few bucks...

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by sonick, Jan 29, 2010.

  1. Jumbie

    Jumbie Senior member

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    That is kind of being a 'stickler', which isn't just being cheap, but being a nuisance about it too - the worst of all. As a rule, for those of you who may not know, when you go out to dinner and the party is 5 people, split the bill 5 ways. If the party is 4 people, split the bill 4 ways. Do not begin to disect the check. I'm a waiter in the evenings and when I see people take out their calculators and begin to determine exactly how much they owe for 1/3rd of a meal and 2 glasses of wine it makes me wonder why anyone would want to go out to dinner with such stingy people. Split the damn bill so everyone pays the same, if your friends had more drinks this time, split it, because the next time when YOU have more drinks, you'll expect the same. It's a matter of friendship IMO.
    Yeah...uh...no. I very happily buy my friends rounds of drinks when we go out for drinks but even if I wouldn't always get shafted when we eat because I'm not a heavy boozer while some of my friends are, I still wouldn't split the bill evenly. It's not my responsibility to pay for their drinks and I really don't give a shit if the waiter thinks I'm stingy. I won't do it out of consideration for my server if it's a large party but if it's a small group of 3 or 4 people, I'm perfectly happy if someone asks for a split bill. By the way Mr "I Think You're Stingy", the last time I went out with two of my friends I paid the entire bill + drinks.
     
  2. sonick

    sonick Senior member

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    Ohyeah, another example from my friend in the OP.

    So Saturday morning, I get a text saying to get ready to head out at 7pm that night, from an unknown number. I look it up and turns out it's my friend, but because it's a different number, it's stored under a different 'profile' in my SMS program of my phone, which kinda fucks up the organization of my texts.

    Later on he sends it again, and its form ANOTHER number. Later that night I asked him, he said that he was sending it for free via the mobile provider's website, and rationing his phone's text msgs.
     
  3. taxgenius

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    Ugh. I can't stand people like that. I can understand being frugal but one's gotta pay to play. If one can't afford drinks, a cab, or whatever, one has no business being there.



    +11111

    I have a Jewish friend who is both. It's embarrasing sometimes. Last week I acquiesced and ended up at a Diner (Diner food sux IMO) but he wanted to go there because it was less expensive than Appleby's. (It was late and these were our only two options) So, of course their cheap food wasn't very good and he chose to bitch about it. Well, one gets what one pays for! I'd rather pay little extra for what I prefer.


    Didn't know Appleby's was kosher.
     
  4. mrmojorisin

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    i'll pay for good food, but if its crappy food, i'd rather eat at home. when i go to arby's i always ask for extra arbys sauce packets. not to hoard, but because they are so damn cheap on them. i save the packets for future arby's sandwiches since i know i will be shortchanged on the packets and i love the arby's sauce.
     
  5. fjblair

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    I've been out with some very cheap people and when it came to splitting up the bill they bring out calculators to figure out everybody's exact contribution, including tip. More often than not I'll just wind up paying for the whole thing to spare myself the misery of having to listen to them bicker back and forth.

    The worst thing I did was back in college when my toaster oven broke. I survived almost exclusively on frozen pizzas so I needed a toaster oven to live. I went and bought one at Wal-mart, then put the broken toaster oven back in the box and returned it to the store. I still don't feel very good about that, and can just imagine the poor asshole who thought he was buying a new toaster oven after me but got a broken one instead. Good luck trying to return that then.

    Jesus I'm an asshole.




    Not that I really care, but that would be larceny and is much different than being cheap.
     
  6. juniper

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    What do people think of the couple who are two people when consuming drinks bought under the round system, but one person when it comes to buying rounds?

    Does the fact that this pisses me off make me cheap?

    It pisses me off less now that I have some money than it did when I was broke, but it still pisses me off.
     
  7. Kundun

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    I've been out with some very cheap people and when it came to splitting up the bill they bring out calculators to figure out everybody's exact contribution, including tip. More often than not I'll just wind up paying for the whole thing to spare myself the misery of having to listen to them bicker back and forth.

    The worst thing I did was back in college when my toaster oven broke. I survived almost exclusively on frozen pizzas so I needed a toaster oven to live. I went and bought one at Wal-mart, then put the broken toaster oven back in the box and returned it to the store. I still don't feel very good about that, and can just imagine the poor asshole who thought he was buying a new toaster oven after me but got a broken one instead. Good luck trying to return that then.

    Jesus I'm an asshole.



    you monster!
    you're stealing from the employees not the store.
    Just kidding, a man must do what a man has to do.
     
  8. Kundun

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    those special days when they offer a free sandwich, or a free pizza, or a free ice cream cone and you see like 100 people lined up waiting for an hour or two. we just laugh. time saved is more precious to us than a few dollars.
    sorry failed at multi-quoting Agree, there are lines of 100 people to get a free scoop of ice cream, or lines of people overnight to save a hundred dollars on a computer. People should learn how to invest time better.
     
  9. VKK3450

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    What do people think of the couple who are two people when consuming drinks bought under the round system, but one person when it comes to buying rounds?

    Does the fact that this pisses me off make me cheap?

    It pisses me off less now that I have some money than it did when I was broke, but it still pisses me off.


    I fucking hate that shit and have mentioned it in other threads.

    K
     
  10. Listi

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    Depends on if it equates with the service being offered. I don't think I've ever left a 5% tip but I have left a 10% one when the service has been bad. I don't really consider that cheap, I'm more then happy to leave 20% or higher if I think the service was worth it.

    Completely agree, I was referring to a situation where the waitress did an adequate job.
     
  11. Thomas

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    Yeah...uh...no.

    I very happily buy my friends rounds of drinks when we go out for drinks but even if I wouldn't always get shafted when we eat because I'm not a heavy boozer while some of my friends are, I still wouldn't split the bill evenly. It's not my responsibility to pay for their drinks and I really don't give a shit if the waiter thinks I'm stingy. I won't do it out of consideration for my server if it's a large party but if it's a small group of 3 or 4 people, I'm perfectly happy if someone asks for a split bill.

    By the way Mr "I Think You're Stingy", the last time I went out with two of my friends I paid the entire bill + drinks.


    I was just thinking about my dad when this example came up. He never drinks, and my mom seldom has more than a glass of wine (I think my boozer gene skipped that generation, but whatev). But they had these new-ish friends who insisted on going to dinner and getting multiple bottles of wine 'for the table' - expensive wine, at that - and my folks just played along, split the bill evenly, but my dad seethed about it. For a while, at least - we were talking about it one evening, and it came out that he didn't like these friends all that much in the first place, and he put a stop to the dinners out. I don't think they see those particular friends any more. I know they dont miss them.
     
  12. sho'nuff

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    There's a difference between cheapness, affordability and thriftiness.

    Cheapness is when you can actually AFFORD something, but do not; oftentimes at the expense of comfort, time, or the expense of others (as with bar tabs, cab rides, etc. that some have described here.) Perhaps they may spend exorbitantly on other items, but do not wish to spend a mere fraction of that on other things.

    Affordability is exactly what you said with the scotch example. This is socially understandable and fine by me.

    Thriftiness is like waiting for an item of clothing to go on sale before buying it, or saving up veggies and meat bones to make stock (this is even PREFERRED as you get better quality stock and soups than buying premade at the market), or perhaps using a coupon at a mid-end restaurant. You are not sacrificing anything (or at least not much) in order to save that money.



    good definitions. +1
     
  13. NorCal

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    The Boone's Farm post was in DT, mi amigo. Don't Take it too seriously [​IMG] And, FWIW, I think most anyone north of - say - 75 tends to exhibit a miserly or exceedingly thrifty mentality, to an extent a product of the Great Depression. My wife's grandfather had a monstrously-large collection of fasteners and scrap metal, but even that paled in comparison with my dad's uncle - he had shipping containers (yes, plural) on his land that he turned into storage for all his tools, scrap metal, and fasteners. When he passes on, his sons will have a hell of a time sorting through it all.
    That's just being awesome.
     
  14. Jumbie

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    I was just thinking about my dad when this example came up. He never drinks, and my mom seldom has more than a glass of wine (I think my boozer gene skipped that generation, but whatev). But they had these new-ish friends who insisted on going to dinner and getting multiple bottles of wine 'for the table' - expensive wine, at that - and my folks just played along, split the bill evenly, but my dad seethed about it. For a while, at least - we were talking about it one evening, and it came out that he didn't like these friends all that much in the first place, and he put a stop to the dinners out. I don't think they see those particular friends any more. I know they dont miss them.

    Kind of a similar situation. My mother does not drink. She will sometimes have a glass on a special occasion when we force her to but otherwise no alcohol touches her lips. She has a bunch of lady friends that go out at least once/month to celebrate each other's birthdays. Some of them like to drink; a lot! They tend to split the tab evenly (person whose birthday it is obviously doesn't pay) and despite the fact that my mom is a very generous person who does a ton of charity work and who I sometimes have to "yell" at cause I think she gets taken advantage of because of how good-natured she is, she's mentioned it to me more than once that she "doesn't think it's fair that she has to pay for other people's drinks" when her own tab is so much smaller.

    The difference is that my mother does like these people so she continues to go along with it but I think that it's a bunch of BS that they don't take note of this fact. Certainly, if I had a friend in the group who doesn't drink, I wouldn't expect him/her to contribute to my tab.
     
  15. acidboy

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    I was just thinking about my dad when this example came up. He never drinks, and my mom seldom has more than a glass of wine (I think my boozer gene skipped that generation, but whatev). But they had these new-ish friends who insisted on going to dinner and getting multiple bottles of wine 'for the table' - expensive wine, at that - and my folks just played along, split the bill evenly, but my dad seethed about it. For a while, at least - we were talking about it one evening, and it came out that he didn't like these friends all that much in the first place, and he put a stop to the dinners out. I don't think they see those particular friends any more. I know they dont miss them.

    kinda evens out the money saved on ketchup don't you think?
     
  16. archetypal_yuppie

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    I'm trying to figure out what to do with potato peels. I watched a documentary about the people in Kentucky that still make moonshine, and apparently potato peels are good for that. I haven't come up with any other ideas yet.

    Careful. Get the wrong alcohol going (methanol instead of ethanol, i think), and you go blind/die. Happens all the time in russia with doodz that sell fake vodka.
     
  17. Listi

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    Careful. Get the wrong alcohol going (methanol instead of ethanol, i think), and you go blind/die. Happens all the time in russia with doodz that sell fake vodka.
    The boiling point of methanol is ~65C and ethanol is ~78C. If you heat your batch to ~70C but don't get up to 78C you'll boil off any methanol. Collect it with a distillation apparatus and discard. It's not too hard to get rid of if you know a little bit of chemistry.
     
  18. Milpool

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    The boiling point of methanol is ~65C and ethanol is ~78C.

    If you heat your batch to ~70C but don't get up to 78C you'll boil off any methanol. Collect it with a distillation apparatus and discard. It's not too hard to get rid of if you know a little bit of chemistry.


    What if your distillation apparatus is made from old lead pipes, some copper tubing, and a few old car radiators?
     
  19. unjung

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    I don't like buying rounds or pitchers because I inevitably spend far beyond what I actually drank. Fuck you if you think I'm being cheap for wanting to pay my share.

    I am also pretty cheap about dishes... my roommates have broken half my glasses and lost half my Tupperware since we moved in together. But I've decided that the regular tit-for-tat bullshit will start if I call them out so I just keep in mind that in total it's still probably only $20 worth.
     
  20. jesask

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    I once went to lunch one Friday and there was a large group at the table next to us. I was not eavesdropping but it was very clear that this a lunch in honour of a retiree, it being his last day at work.

    Anyway, the lunch went on and the bill came. This was not an expensive place. I noticed the retiree taking out his wallet to pay for his own meal. How cheap is that to make the retiree pay for his own lunch on his last day of work?

    Scandalous.

    I should add that this was a group of high school teachers.
     

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