These are both cool pieces in barely used condition. Get them here for cheap. Asking 30, but will let you talk me down to 25. No less than that though. These are bulky and pricey to ship. Both tagged large but fit more like medium First is a Stock hoodie. I think this fabric has a name, but don't know what it is . In any event, it is very warm! Second is a Koto cardigan. Really cool colors on this. Material is thickish and very warm. This brand always makes stuff influenced by workwear or Native American patterns. Both measure 22 inches across chest. Would consider trades. I'm currently 33 or 34 in the waist, and a M or L.