Cheaney

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

Cheaney Autumn/Winter collection released.
Lot of emphasis on last 12508 as most new models seem to be on this last. If you have slightly wider feet or a high instep then 12508 is a source of pain.

 

[shoefan57]

Cheaney Autumn/Winter collection released.
Lot of emphasis on last 12508 as most new models seem to be on this last. If you have slightly wider feet or a high instep then 12508 is a source of pa

 

[shoefan57]

Cheaney Autumn/Winter collection released.
Lot of emphasis on last 12508 as most new models seem to be on this last. If you have slightly wider feet or a high instep then 12508 is a source of pain.

That's helpful to know, which Cheaney last do you find best for wider feet and a higher than average instep?

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

That's helpful to know, which Cheaney last do you find best for wider feet and a higher than average instep?

I find 4436 and 130 are best suited to high instep and slightly wider feet.

 

[shoefan57]

I find 4436 and 130 are best suited to high instep and slightly wider feet.

Thank you

 

[davejones22]

Just ordered the Dallington R chukka in the hope this can replace my C&J Molton. Will report back after arrival.

Dallington R Chukka Boot in Brown Waxy Leather

The Dallington Chukka boots exude relaxed charm, courtesy of their waxy Commander leather. This water-resistant leather develops a rugged aesthetic over time, naturally lightening and gaining texture. Occasional application of Saphir Creme Cuir Gras rejuvenates the leather, restoring its...

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Bit more expensive than I'd like and a little too close to C&J now in terms of Cheaney's pricing, although 10% off does help somewhat.

FWIW I've got narrow heels, a wide-ish but low volume foot with a low instep overall (but high-ish arch). My foot is quite banana shaped with splayed toes. Finding a good fit in well made shoes is extremely challenging as a consequence.

I've two pairs of Jackie on 125 that fit really nicely, albeit with a little bit too much room over the instep than ideal. Very comfortable in size 10 for me overall though, even worn all day.

I always have the same problem with non-handgrade C&J - My Moltons on C&J 336 have too much volume above the mid and forefoot but still impede on my big toes. Going up a half size rectifies the toes somewhat but then volume is completely excessive (and they look mis-sized). Found 224 (Chiltern) / 325 (Consiton) less volume but much tighter at the big toes and 378 (Chepstow 2) similar volume but still a little tight at the front. When I get my feet measured in store they without fail try and put me in a 9.5, which is unwearable.

I've learn't a lot about the shape of my feet since starting to buy well made footwear over the last few years (cheapo stuff from the likes of Dune is soft and just gets battered into the right shape) - the last shape in the horizontal plane being crucial if you have feet like mine. Unhelpfully I also initially got caught out by nonsense salesperson comments about the toe-boxes stretching over time too (celastic toe stiffeners do not stretch to any appreciable degree as I found to my misfortune!).

I didn't have high hopes for Cheaney 125 at first glance as it looks narrow / quite tapered. It is actually considerably more assymetrical (and a hair longer) than the C&J lasts above and therefore despite being more pointed actually gives my big toe more room. Similar to the handgrade C&J where my 367 (Egerton) fits really well in a 10 because of the assymetrical, low volume last.

Interested to see how 12508 fits when they arrive. The 15216 Imperial fit really well, as did 205 when last in store, so have hopes that Cheaney generally suits my more banana shaped feet!

The Moltons are beautifully made but as well as not fitting well, I find them ridiculously heavy compared to the Jackie for some reason too. I've found C&J generally a step up from Cheaney in quality control and overall tactile quality, but my Jackies have worn really well over last few years.

 

[davejones22]

Arrived today so excellent service from Cheaney.

QC seems really good. The waxy commander is very similar to the C&J roughout. Very stiff and dark in colour to start with but can see how it will be very comfortable over time. Seems like it will soften up a bit more than the C&J roughout too.

12508 fits very well. Similar room to 125 at the big toe, a hair shorter in length. They are actually wider across the metatarsal heads, but a significantly tighter instep which makes them wear narrower & suits me very well. They feel almost identical to my 125 boots when I put a 2mm leather insole into the Jackie.

Beautiful boots and feel up there with my Moltons in terms of perceived winter hardiness!

I'm going to return these, however, as the combination of the rounded last and the rather wide (enourmous!) storm welt puts them too far over towards proper country boot than I'd like. Without the storm welt they'd be absolutely perfect for my purposes (I'd change the lace holes given the choice too). If they appear in the sale end of season in my size I'd definitely pick them up again though. With a storm welt that large I'd probably go for the 125 last to keep them a bit more city friendly.

I think the 12508 will be perfect for me in a Chelsea boot (can't usually wear Chelseas as I get too much heel slip with my low instep). I've ordered the Barnes in snuff repello & no storm welt which should be spot on and bit less country casual.

 

[Pascal1980]

Hello folks,

then what is your experience with the higher end "Imperial" line of Chenea?

They have nice oxfords in burgundy and navy blue, and burgundy and navy/mahagoni balmoral boots, which Crockett and Jones does not offer.

Their Imperial Line last ought to fit my foot in UK 7 / EU 41 well as I also like to wear the Crockett & Jones lasts 348 and 373 in UK 7 for my slim foot.

I wanted to visit Chenea in the first week of September in London on the Jeremyn Street when I am there for consulting business purposes.

Best regards and enjoy your weekend

Pascal

 

[davejones22]

Hello folks,

then what is your experience with the higher end "Imperial" line of Chenea?

They have nice oxfords in burgundy and navy blue, and burgundy and navy/mahagoni balmoral boots, which Crockett and Jones does not offer.

Their Imperial Line last ought to fit my foot in UK 7 / EU 41 well as I also like to wear the Crockett & Jones lasts 348 and 373 in UK 7 for my slim foot.

I wanted to visit Chenea in the first week of September in London on the Jeremyn Street when I am there for consulting business purposes.

Best regards and enjoy your weekend

Pascal

I tried on the Norman Derby shoe on 15216 on a recent visit. It seemed nicely made with better quality calf leather than the standard Cheaney line.

The last is quite asymmetric and was a closer fit around the instep than 125 (but still left enough toe room), felt very similar to the C&J handgrades in have in 367. I would have thought if 348/373 fit you this should also work very well for you.

I wasn't 100% convinced about the chisel toe as it's perhaps a little broad compared to something like C&J 348/373. Cheaney last 205 fit similarly and has an elongated, sharper chisel toe like the ones you mentioned.

 

[martin92]

Hi guys,
do you think last on Elliott II R boots is too long and pointy for woman? My wife struggling with finding quality boots which she will also like because she has width E, so women C-D widths are no-go. We tried to contact C&J because they should be able to create MTO boots but they offered us only men's lasts with E width so it doesn't make sense to pay for MTO, and instead of this we can go to buy some RTW men boots.

She likes mentioned Elliott II R Capped Derby Boot on last 130 but we are afraid that last is too pointy and long, like typical man last. What do you think? It could be grate if some can provide me real photos of that boots if he owned them or recommend different men's last that isn't so long.

Thank you

 

[Northants bloke]

Just in case you haven't checked Cheaney's last guide

Last Guide | Cheaney Shoes

Discover the number of different last shapes our footwear is manufactured on. See how they look and the fitting characteristics of each one.

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Mrs NB wears a few pairs of Cheaney too but has tiny feet so we can't help there. I have 130 last brogues. I think it is designed to look extended while hiding a reasonably roomy fit. No way of guessing how fit her without trying. Return if they don't fit.

12508 is their main chunky boot last but looks less masculine with broguing such Tamar or Tweed.

I wonder if it is worth looking at 6184 ( Orton and Orlingbury) for a subtler shape. Closer to women's lasts.
Not a perfect illustration but on the photo Left 130, middle 6184, right 12508.

 

[martin92]

Just in case you haven't checked Cheaney's last guide

Last Guide | Cheaney Shoes

Discover the number of different last shapes our footwear is manufactured on. See how they look and the fitting characteristics of each one.

www.cheaney.co.uk

Mrs NB wears a few pairs of Cheaney too but has tiny feet so we can't help there. I have 130 last brogues. I think it is designed to look extended while hiding a reasonably roomy fit. No way of guessing how fit her without trying. Return if they don't fit.

12508 is their main chunky boot last but looks less masculine with broguing such Tamar or Tweed.

I wonder if it is worth looking at 6184 ( Orton and Orlingbury) for a subtler shape. Closer to women's lasts.
Not a perfect illustration but on the photo Left 130, middle 6184, right 12508.

Thank you for photo. To be honest I think that 12508 could work for her. When I compare boots with that last like Trafalgar, Jarrow or Jaxson to their female version on last 23234 they look almost identical to me, at least on photos.