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CBD WAYWRN: An Experiment

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    If/when I wear a tie on a weekend or to a social event, unless it is after work, I always wear a BD collar. And pretty much always with an odd jacket. Linen in summer, OCBD in cooler weather.

    To work, a BD maybe once a month. I actually got comments on it yesterday. Typically, nothing I wear, not even vests, elicit comments.
     


  2. UrbanComposition

    UrbanComposition Senior member

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    The OCBD, with or without a tie, is secksy. [​IMG]
     


  3. ManofKent

    ManofKent Senior member

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    As someone who used to do this a lot, here are a couple of thoughts. My first impression was that the shirt and tie are too "matchy", although it's really not that egregious. I think it's a natural inclination to think purple tie when you are looking at that shirt. In fact, if you walk around any run of the mill department store, they will have shirt and tie combos laid out like that all over the place. If you want to play off of the color of the shirt with the tie, I've found it to be more elegant to choose a tie where the base color is softly contrasting the shirt, but with details in the tie that might tie it to the shirt.
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    Anyways, just a few amateur thoughts from my own experience.


    Thanks. I find ginghams and checks difficult to pattern 'match' so I tend to stick to solids, or very large paisleys. Avoiding scale/business problems always feels tricky. As I've got more than one purple/lavender/mauve shirt I probably ought to try and think about appropriate ties. Grey is safe with the right suit, and I guess burgundy will be fine. Green sounds good in theory, but greens seem to be a pig to use successfully.
     


  4. ManofKent

    ManofKent Senior member

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    My main concern with this fit is not the colors, but the fact that the suit has a good bit of sheen to it. I am wondering if this takes it out of the realm of CBD.

    Mike

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    Whilst it has a sheen I think it avoids the 'shiny' suit look, and I suspect under office lighting the sheen is reduced anyway. I like the combining btw.
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    Yellow tie with a white shirt [​IMG]

    Navy suit today, feeling bold.

    I confess I don't see the problem with this shade of yellow on a white shirt.
    Continuing with the blue and grey theme...today's PS is white linen [​IMG]

    Much better.
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    I would swap the tie, and personally I'm not a fan of elasicated shoes beyond chelseas but that might just be my narrow mindedness.
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    Burgundy or cream PS instead.
     


  5. someotherstyle

    someotherstyle Senior member

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    Chiming on the BD with suit/tie, I think BDs are traditionally (and still are) too casual for a business or worsted suit. Maybe with a country suit, cotton suit or linen suit, but the button down is an informal shirt, and not suitable to be worn with a tie and business dress.
     


  6. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    This is a great example of national/regional differences. BD + suit has always been acceptable for business in the US and in some regions is THE dress shirt. Elsewhere, this is not so. But here it is.
     


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    JayJay Senior member

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    I wear bd collar shirts with blazers with and without a tie, but not with suits. I used to wear bd collars with suits but decided it no longer worked for me.
     


  8. Eustace

    Eustace Senior member

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    This is a great example of national/regional differences. BD + suit has always been acceptable for business in the US and in some regions is THE dress shirt. Elsewhere, this is not so. But here it is.

    Does oxford cloth render it too casual for CBD?
     


  9. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Does oxford cloth render it too casual for CBD?

    Not necessarily. That's a classic trad/NE look. Today also popular in the South (though if you ask me Oxford cloth is too hot for the South.
     


  10. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    The OCBD, with or without a tie, is secksy.

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    i just watched it last night and thought the same thing. before sf id have been focusing much more on teh legs [​IMG]

    to the serious though, i am an american from birth (denver, co) and cant get myself to do an OCBD with a suit and tie. just doesnt feel right for me. even though i like the way it looks in many of these posts. oh well my loss i guess.
     


  11. Manton

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    This is a personal thing but I may as well mention it.

    I am seeing a lot of striped and checked shirts in which the white ground totally dominates the stripe. I think these are hard to coordinate and generally don't look that good.I have a couple and I notice that I never reach for them and haven't ordered more in forever.

    Checks and stripes look best, IMO, when the area allocated to the pattern is equal to or greater than the ground. Butcher stripes are a good example of equal to. Gingham would be greater than.

    So that's why I don't really care for this. Also not a fan of the tie.
     


  12. TRINI

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    I am seeing a lot of striped and checked shirts in which the white ground totally dominates the stripe.

    Agreed. I went with a work colleague to order shirts yesterday and steered him away from an overly narrow striped fabric that he was going to choose for that same reason.

    The shirt would essentially look white from distance and then what's the point of getting the stripe?
     


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    Eustace Senior member

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    Not necessarily. That's a classic trad/NE look. Today also popular in the South (though if you ask me Oxford cloth is too hot for the South.


    I'm in the south and see this look everywhere. Oxford cloth is fine for me except in the hottest of months (July-August).
     


  14. ManofKent

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    This is a great example of national/regional differences. BD + suit has always been acceptable for business in the US and in some regions is THE dress shirt. Elsewhere, this is not so. But here it is.

    On the subject of national/regional differences, am I right in thinking that whilst in the UK a contrast collar shirt would pass without comment in the US it would be considered flashy?
     


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    The shirt / tie combo is too busy for my taste (patterns too similar in scale).

    Agree.

    I am seeing a lot of striped and checked shirts in which the white ground totally dominates the stripe. I think these are hard to coordinate and generally don't look that good.

    Resurrected just for the two of you:

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