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conservative business dress WAYWRN: An Experiment

luftvier

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Originally Posted by Manton
What are those lines on the collar then?

Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH
It seems to have it. The stripes on the shirt, are they in the weave? As in a different weave and texture?

Raised weave. I think it's known as dimity.

When I think jacquard, I think of that shiny sheen look - like a self-stripe. I may be mistaken.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
I take it back, ditch the jaquard stripe on the shirt.
Honestly, I was shocked you didn't note this right off. Faith in your discernment restored; carry on.
 

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Originally Posted by luftvier
Raised weave. I think it's known as dimity.

When I think jacquard, I think of that shiny sheen look - like a self-stripe. I may be mistaken.


Same thing; not conservative business dress.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
Same thing; not conservative business dress.

The goal here, essentially, is clothing that wouldn't get attention in a conservative office.

Brown suede shooz are conservative business dress.

A raised weave white shirt is not.

eh.gif


Just when I thought I'd gotten a hang of this.
 

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Originally Posted by luftvier
The goal here, essentially, is clothing that wouldn't get attention in a conservative office.

Brown suede shooz are conservative business dress.

A raised weave white shirt is not.

eh.gif

Yeah, b/c brown suede shoes are classy/U and jacquards are greaseball/non-U.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
Yeah, b/c brown suede shoes are classy/U and jacquards are greaseball/non-U.

Elaborate? I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
Yeah, b/c brown suede shoes are classy/U and jacquards are greaseball/non-U.

+ ∞

No offense meant towards luftvier, by the way. Your look is very good overall.
 

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Originally Posted by luftvier
Elaborate? I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

Suede looks nice and has a pedigree. A brown suede shoe is, like a gray flannel suit or a shepherd's check tie, one of the markers of someone who knows how to dress. It's unusual, compared to calf, but not flashy. It's distinctive and understated at the same time.

Jacquard and fancy weave shirtings are flashy and mostly eschewed by the great dressers and always have been. Edge stripes on collars and cuffs are worse but in the same vein.
 

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Originally Posted by edmorel
protip on white shirts: don't get anything that is supposed to make it "interesting". Stick with the typical weaves and avoid self stripes, jacquards, dimity, sheer, etc.

Originally Posted by ctp120
+ ∞

No offense meant towards luftvier, by the way. Your look is very good overall.


No offense taken; I don't think there's a substantial population (outside of here) that's going to hold this shirt against me. FWIW, this is one from my first (only) foray into MtM shirts. My desire for "unique" is now out of my system.

I never really considered this weave "flashy," as it's rather unnoticeable until one gets really close. Hm.

Coincidentally, I also had a white jacquard w/ mini blue stripes made at that time. I thought it looked great when I got it, but I rately wear it as there's nothing it looks good with.

Originally Posted by Manton
Suede looks nice and has a pedigree. A brown suede shoe is, like a gray flannel suit or a shepherd's check tie, one of the markers of someone who knows how to dress. It's unusual, compared to calf, but not flashy. It's distinctive and understated at the same time.

Jacquard and fancy weave shirtings are flashy and mostly eschewed by the great dressers and always have been. Edge stripes on collars and cuffs are worse but in the same vein.


This is what I imagined you'd say.

Luckily, I know better than to get edge striped shirts.
 

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Again, not directed at luftvier, because you show obvious other signs of good taste, but I'd expect someone who consistently goes for white jacquards over white solids to also drive a yellow hummer and/or wear copious amounts of hair gel.
 

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Originally Posted by edmorel
protip on white shirts: don't get anything that is supposed to make it "interesting". Stick with the typical weaves and avoid self stripes, jacquards, dimity, sheer, etc.

This board needs more protips in general.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
Edge stripes on collars and cuffs are worse but in the same vein.

I saw a gentleman this morning in the lobby of my Biglaw firm's building wearing an edgestriped collar shirt. I was dismayed, but then I realized I am utterly un-conservative business dress today, so the scales of judgment were leveled.
 

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I never really considered this weave "flashy," as it's rather unnoticeable until one gets really close. Hm.

This example is a low level offender for sure. Still, I was surprised at first when I thought it had slipped past the all seeing eagle-eye in Manton's conservative business dress panopticon.
 

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