I am very narrow in terms of how I dress but I don't tell people not to wear something or to only wear another thing. Everyone says, "I like that" or "I don't like that", and given the point of this thread, I thought there were some parameters. Loud socks or ties do not fit in with my definition of CBD, does not mean I am correct nor that I am imposing my views. this is a weird place, WAYWN gets derided because everything is accepted and no criticisms are offered. I take note of the socks and that gets derided When I offer stronger critiques, it's usually to people I know/have been around forever like Manton, because I know he doesn't really give a sh*t what I have to say.