casual fashion advice

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by kj221, Apr 23, 2005.

  1. kj221

    kj221 New Member

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    I am about to cross the line from full time student to full time professional (about to finish law school), and my closet is very much 'college' fashion.  My current look seems to be described in the archives as 'american jackass," and most of my stuff came from Abercrombie or JCrew (I see you rolling your eyes...).

    My request is for suggestions for a casual wardrobe.  I've learned enough about business wear from the archives (thanks, btw) but I'm clueless about the after work and weekend element (aside from jeans, brown boots, and untucked shirts).  I'm about 5'10'', 170, and generally wear a medium.  Price isn't a huge issue, but I doubt I would pay more than $100 for a shirt.  Oh, I'm 24, and really don't want to look 40, but I don't want to look 19 either... Thanks.
     


  2. philosophe

    philosophe Senior member

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    I strongly recommend a visit to virtualclotheshorse.com. The owner is a regular on this forum and very easy to do business with.
     


  3. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I second the recommendation. Not only is there a lot of "cool clothes for grownups" on that site, but Lance is a terrific guy to deal with. I'd vouch for him.
     


  4. Patrick06790

    Patrick06790 Senior member

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    I would:

    1. Check Sierra Trading Post for sport jackets and pick up a couple. Nothing fancy. We're about the same build, and there are plenty of 42Rs there.

    2. Get a few buttondowns from LL Bean. Tattersall, solids. Add tie if you want and it will look appropriate; skip tie and your collar won't go on a road trip. Add sweater or even plain navy sweatshirt and you're still doing well.

    3. If you wear jeans make sure they're clean. Faded is okay; stained is not.

    4. I hate loafers; an understated sneaker is good. I prefer the low-cut Chuck Taylor in white. (The late Hunter S. Thompson ordered these by the crate, and look where it got him.)

    5. On second thought, ignore the parenthetical aside in #4.

    This is your basic post-collegiate look. It has served me well for 21 years (I graduated in 1984).
     


  5. cpac

    cpac Senior member

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    Non-student casual is not all that far off of student casual (or at least, might not be, depending on how casually you dressed before). Were I starting from scratch, I'd go with: Jackets/Coats -navy blazer -tweed/brown blazer -if you're the kind to pull it off, a suede coat/leather jacket/car coat etc. Shirts 2-3 oxford button downs (white, blue, pink) - polo makes good ones that you can pick up cheap at outlets 2-3 polo shirts black t-shirt, possibly another solid at least 1 "going out" shirt if you "go out" Pants 1-2 jeans khakis (though I find I almost never wear mine - consider skipping them) linen pants 1-2 shorts Shoes "fashion" sneakers - something comfy, but not necesarily made for real athletics loafers/more casual lace-ups, possibly even with rubber sole Most importantly, though, "casual" means a wider choice, and more options to express your personality. Â Go with what you like and buy things that you'll wear. Â Once you're outside a campus environment, you will very quickly learn to see those things that earmark people as still being students, and will easily learn to avoid dressing like them. Â (This also changes somewhat from location to location and thus defies, to some extent, universal description). Edit: Oh. And just for perspective's sake, I'm 27, and a year out of law school. As a student I almost always dressed up more than others, and enjoy doing that now. Graduation doesn't fundamentally change who you are - and so your casual clothing shouldn't fundamentally change much either.
     


  6. shoreman1782

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    Agreed.

    Personally, if what you have is Abercrombie and J Crew, it doesn't mean the natural progression is 180 degrees from those brands' general style, if it suits you. A lot of people seem to like euro/italian designers/makers (zegna, etc.) for sportswear/casual - that stuff just doesn't work for me.

    Elements of student style to avoid: cargo pants/shorts, logo tshirts (logo anything) and any rubber flip flops. Poorly fitting striped shirts are the trademark of the american jackass, but it doesn't mean there's no place in a casual wardrobe for a nice striped shirt.

    If you want new polo shirts, RL's are nice, and the custom fit models are trim enough to make them somewhat distinctive. American Apparel's polos/leisure shirts have a collar but are not preppy.

    The jeans are probably the most important thing. It's up to you, of course, but as a law grad you probably don't want to go too nuts. Get a clean pair of jeans without an exaggerated cut. Try the streetwear forum here for myriad solid denim recs.

    For reference, I'm 24.
     


  7. Luc-Emmanuel

    Luc-Emmanuel Senior member

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    casual...

    Let see :

    - one nudie raw denim, straight legs or bootcut.
    - flat front cords, slim and tappered : rust or dark blue.
    - flat front wool pants : moka, tan glen plaid.

    - floral shirt (authentic Liberty)
    - light blue herringbone
    - white
    - salmon pink

    - sweaters : silk, cashmere (dark blue, purple, red)

    - turtleneck : dark brown, black

    - sportscoat : moka velvet, brown/beige cords, navy blue wool.

    - one nice military peacoat in marine blue.

    Luc
     


  8. newyorker

    newyorker Senior member

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    It is interesting to see that our French Friend Luc-Emmanuel
    has a distinctly French/European taste to casual clothing. I think the diversity of ideas in this forum is very valuable.
     


  9. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Actually, his tastes are very French, (and pretty decent too, may I add.)  His capsule wardrobe he suggests is comprised of very muted colors, with lots of dark earthtones and dark blues, and a subdued accent piece (the liberty shirt in particular, and the light colored shirts in general.)  The pieces suggested are all classic, and the descriptions are of fabric and texture, rather than details or cut.  Even the suggestion of a peacoat as the outerwear piece is very Gallic.  Except for the specific brand suggestions, the entire wardrobe could be bought in a trip to APC and a trip to Agnes B (2 classic French brands.)

    An Italian or an Englishman or a German with similar sensibilities I imagine to be significantly different.  

    Personally, I like ilucs suggestions, although I would have a different (singlebreasted) outerwear piece, which, imo, would be more versatile. The only doublebreasted jacket I own is a midnight blue with silver button naval inspired coat from the first Burberry Prorsum S/S line.  It is cool, but very rarely worn.
     


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