cashmere vs. merino wool

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  1. Aus_MD

    Aus_MD Senior member

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    Bear in mind that not all merino is equal. European and Chinese mills have been known to mix Australian and Russian merino when spinning yarn. The Russian merino is unquestionably inferior (being more fragile). Look for a woolmark (Australian) or fernmark (NZ) for high quality merino wools.

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  2. j

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    I now use Forever New, available at Nordstrom in the lingerie department.
    That's the one. Thanks.
     


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    Bear in mind that not all merino is equal. European and Chinese mills have been known to mix Australian and Russian merino when spinning yarn. The Russian merino is unquestionably inferior (being more fragile). Look for a woolmark (Australian) or fernmark (NZ) for high quality merino wools.

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    Simply the BEST.

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    Simply the BEST.

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    In fact I meant the NZ merino trademark rather than Fernz (which is a mark for carpet wool). I don't know that NZ merino is any better than Australian merino (the awards for the finest bale cross the Tasman Sea with monotonous regularity) but I would buy NZ merino where possible because NZ farmers do not use the "muelsing" technique to manage fly-strike in their flocks.

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  5. Film Noir Buff

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    The best merino will feel about as nice as cashmere and have a non allergenic feeling against the skin. I usually wear both cashmere and merino in le style commando.

    Cheaper cashmere can itch.

    Hand washing is good but you run the risk of not getting the detergent out completely. I use a mesh laundry bag, which you can get from say a hardware store, and I wash the sweater in the gentle cycle. I use baby shampoo which keeps the colors fast and softens the garment or keeps it soft by not removing too much of the sweater's native emoillient.
     


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    I now use Forever New, available at Nordstrom in the lingerie department.

    Is this available anywhere other than Nordies?
     


  7. Arethusa

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    Why would you use Forever New over Nancy Boy?

    For that matter, why would you use either over Woolite or Woolite Dark?
     


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    Why would you use Forever New over Nancy Boy? For that matter, why would you use either over Woolite or Woolite Dark?
    I don't know what Nancy Boy is.

    Woolite has been claimed (by lots of people, run a Google search) to damage wool and cashmere by stripping too much of the oils out of the fibers. We like the natural oils. So we recommend something gentler.
     


  9. Arethusa

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    I've heard those claims. A lot of other fairly credible people claim that's bullshit, and I've really never seen anything definitive. Doesn't help that a lot of sites I've seen claiming that Woolite is destructive can't even tell the difference between a soap and a detergent. I'm not saying they're definitely wrong, but it doesn't really seize credibility. Nancy Boy makes a generally highly regarded detergent that is much, much cheaper than Forever New. Still expensive compared to Woolite, though.
     


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    I prefer merino wool sweaters. The only cashmere sweater I have... well I use it on long plane trips to feel warm, but that is about it.

    However, I have been considering a cashmere (or high cashmere content) navy blazer for next winter.
     


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    I've heard those claims. A lot of other fairly credible people claim that's bullshit, and I've really never seen anything definitive. Doesn't help that a lot of sites I've seen claiming that Woolite is destructive can't even tell the difference between a soap and a detergent. I'm not saying they're definitely wrong, but it doesn't really seize credibility. Nancy Boy makes a generally highly regarded detergent that is much, much cheaper than Forever New. Still expensive compared to Woolite, though.
    I don't know either way, but I do know that I have never heard anything bad about Forever New. I have also read that FN rinses out much more easily than Woolite. Who knows. By the time I would have stripped the oils out of a sweater using Woolite, I probably would have destroyed it in some other way anyway. But I still don't recommend it based on all the claims I've read.

    BTW Forever new appears to be available relatively cheaply online.
     


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    I've seen merino used for cycling jerseys, so it must be pretty tough!

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    I've seen merino used for cycling jerseys, so it must be pretty tough!

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    Yeah, they use it in a (relatively new, I think) line of athletic socks and underwear called SmartWool. It seems to be quite durable and maintains a comfortable temperature. I like my SmartWool socks a lot.
     


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    Wool is surprisingly excellent for activewear, as well as everyday socks and in very thin/fine knitwear, better than many cotton pieces for warm weather.
     


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