Cashmere Sweater Hierarchy

[DorianGreen]

So the 2% polyamide, 1% elastane in this Bottega Veneta jumper is just “cost-cutting”?

View attachment 1861072 View attachment 1861073 Extremely tight knitting, by the way. No light shines through.

of course, every 2% means around 12-15% less expensive to the final customer, for the maker is a cost reduction at scale
But the feels remains at that composition, i dont know why is it that way, because you dont loose the benefits or draws of an 100% cashmere but you also dont get the benefits of an 70% cashmere with 30% synthetic.

These small additions of synthetic fibres make no sense to me, as they don't really cut costs. It's more a trend in my opinion: as I already said in another thread, even Loro Piana add some elastane in their jacketing fabrics.

I totally refuse this foolishness.

 

[DorianGreen]

A few years after Ballantyne went into receivership and destroyed their equipment, I found a stash of original Ballantyne in Buenos Aires. That stash plus some from the Berk brick and mortar are still in heavy rotation and represent the last of my Ballantyne.

What a great loss! We'll probably never experience a better cashmere than old Ballantyne's.

Enjoy it and take care of it!

 

[Bespoke DJP]

A few years after Ballantyne went into receivership and destroyed their equipment, I found a stash of original Ballantyne in Buenos Aires. That stash plus some from the Berk brick and mortar are still in heavy rotation and represent the last of my Ballantyne.

It has fun, hasn't it?

Not only do we relentlessly try to find vintage cloth of our liking for our bespoke commissions (please see: The Unfunded Liabilities & Ongoing Bespoke Projects Threads), but also of knitwear grails around the world!

Now that I became aware - thanks to you gentlemen - of Ballantyne, it's official: I would call myself treasure hunter!


Best to all,

Dimitris

 

[Johnny80]

It has fun, hasn't it?

Not only do we relentlessly try to find vintage cloth of our liking for our bespoke commissions (please see: The Unfunded Liabilities & Ongoing Bespoke Projects Threads), but also of knitwear grails around the world!

Now that I became aware - thanks to you gentlemen - of Ballantyne, it's official: I would call myself treasure hunter!


Best to all,

Dimitris

For your treasure hunt you must search and add Colombo 100% yangir knit or coat

 

[DorianGreen]

For your treasure hunt you must search and add Colombo 100% yangir knit or coat

Can you provide some more information about it?

 

[Bespoke DJP]

For your treasure hunt you must search and add Colombo 100% Yangir knit or coat

Well noted, dear sir!

However, please, let me enjoy the shift of my knitwear preference - from Italian to Scottish - for a moment or so, and we shall see about it! After all, It took me couple of decades to decide it and act accordingly, so this has to be taken into consideration as well!


Best,

Dimitris

 

[DorianGreen]

Well noted, dear sir!

However, please, let me enjoy the shift of my knitwear preference - from Italian to Scottish - for a moment or so, and we shall see about it! After all, It took me couple of decades to decide it and act accordingly, so this has to be taken into consideration as well!


Best,

Dimitris

I understand you, Scottish cashmere has this mythical aura. I also tend to prefer it, but, objectively seen, despite some senseless play with synthetic fibres, Italian cashmere has nothing to envy at the moment. On the contrary I think that Italian mills have achieved a certain supremacy over their Scottish counterparts, as quality of fibres, style, variety and craftsmanship. On the other hand I see signs of awakening in Scotland, and this competition is obviously a very good thing for us consumers.

 

[Bespoke DJP]

I understand you, Scottish cashmere has this mythical aura. I also tend to prefer it, but, objectively seen, despite some senseless play with synthetic fibres, Italian cashmere has nothing to envy at the moment. On the contrary I think that Italian mills have achieved a certain supremacy over their Scottish counterparts, as quality of fibres, style, variety and craftsmanship. On the other hand I see signs of awakening in Scotland, and this competition is obviously a very good thing for us consumers.

I very much agree on all counts!


Best,

Dimitris

 

[fabricateurialist]

For your treasure hunt you must search and add Colombo 100% yangir knit or coat

I coincidentally came about these last 2.5m of Yangir cloth

CASHMERE YANGIR TOP MONGOLIA V. BROWN – € 200,00 /MT – LAST MT 2,50 – COD. 77068 | Antonietta tessuti a Torino

ART. YANGIR TOP MONGOLIA V. BROWN 100% CASHMERE - MADE IN ITALY € 200,00 by MT - LAST MT 2,50 GR 300/330 – H 150 cm (STOCK, NO EQUIPPED WITH LABELS. COMMERCIALE VALUE € 400). EXCLUSIVE YANGIR CASHMERE OBTAINED BY THE PRECIOUS AND RARE "IBEX SIBERICA" GOAT ; ITS UNDERGOING IS AVAILABLE IN LIMITED

www.antoniettatessuti.com

 

[DorianGreen]

One of my treasures.

A NOS cashmere jumper from the defunct Peter Scott, bought some years ago in a Roman shop. I would say it's the same quality as Ballantyne, very thick and tightly knit, really amazing.
It's a 42 size, 52 cm pit to pit.

 

[DorianGreen]

I coincidentally came about these last 2.5m of Yangir cloth

CASHMERE YANGIR TOP MONGOLIA V. BROWN – € 200,00 /MT – LAST MT 2,50 – COD. 77068 | Antonietta tessuti a Torino

ART. YANGIR TOP MONGOLIA V. BROWN 100% CASHMERE - MADE IN ITALY € 200,00 by MT - LAST MT 2,50 GR 300/330 – H 150 cm (STOCK, NO EQUIPPED WITH LABELS. COMMERCIALE VALUE € 400). EXCLUSIVE YANGIR CASHMERE OBTAINED BY THE PRECIOUS AND RARE "IBEX SIBERICA" GOAT ; ITS UNDERGOING IS AVAILABLE IN LIMITED

www.antoniettatessuti.com

Here another contribution: https://www.lussuosissimo.com/non-solo-cashmere-ecco-le-fibre-piu-preziose-al-mondo/

 

[msimon]

Here another contribution: https://www.lussuosissimo.com/non-solo-cashmere-ecco-le-fibre-piu-preziose-al-mondo/

Goats are great, was brought up around goats and there very playful and friendly creatures, but I'm sure that wild ones would have you on your feet in no time.

Thick as two short planks though.

 

[DorianGreen]

For your treasure hunt you must search and add Colombo 100% yangir knit or coat

Couldn't find any knit in yangir.

 

[HotDilf]

Cashmere Diaries No. 1

Today while putting on my William Lockie I discovered, to my pleasant surprise, that not only the armpit seams are reinforced, but they also hand reinforced the turn cuff seams and the seams at the bottom ribbed hem - for a total of six (6) spots. To me, this kind of hand work and attention to detail is what makes a knitwear piece truly "worth it", and what makes them last.


On the contrary, the Berk I got my from my father does not have these reinforcements.


Other than WL, Only Loro Piana, Fioroni and Chanel (Barrie) have this feature. Colombo does not.

 

[msimon]

Cashmere Diaries No. 1

Today while putting on my William Lockie I discovered, to my pleasant surprise, that not only the armpit seams are reinforced, but they also hand reinforced the turn cuff seams and the seams at the bottom ribbed hem - for a total of six (6) spots. To me, this kind of hand work and attention to detail is what makes a knitwear piece truly "worth it", and what makes them last.
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On the contrary, the Berk I got my from my father does not have these reinforcements.
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Other than WL, Only Loro Piana, Fioroni and Chanel (Barrie) have this feature. Colombo does not.
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can confirm this on geelong and camel aswell. I assume all there knitwear is the same.