Cashmere Sweater Hierarchy

[epsilon22]

either that or keep asking strangers on the internet what sweater brand to buy on the internet

I mean, I've gotten a lot of useful information by doing that, so yes I'll continue.

I actually got the feeling that you were talking about hand-knitters when I replied to your post earlier, based on some of your previous posts in this thread, which is why I asked for brands or makers you'd recommend. No idea why the question warranted such hostility and condescension. But hey if you think your knowledge's too valuable to be shared with undeserving internet strangers, you do you. I do appreciate the knowledge and answers you've shared in the past though.

 

[double00]

IBut hey if you think your knowledge's too valuable to be shared with undeserving internet strangers

this is not the point and is precisely the consumerist nut that I am trying to crack .

the point is to engender interest in craft .

this isn't about the internet . it's about material reality . I am sharing my knowledge freely here . happily . this isn't hard

 

[elysiumfield]

if you were honestly interested in the craft you'd learn it ( or at least learn about it ) instead you ask for brand recos .

there are 40 million handknitters in the US alone . 'dying craft' lmao .

also : lmao belligerent I answered a question and then declined to draw a brand map

I have bought hand knitted cardigans in coarse gauge yarn. But friends who can knit have told me that real fine gauge yarn is just not possible to hand knit. So I think depending on what style one is after, not everything can be hand knitted. For fine gauge you might be able to crochet, but that would look quite different.

 

[double00]

I have bought hand knitted cardigans in coarse gauge yarn. But friends who can knit have told me that real fine gauge yarn is just not possible to hand knit. So I think depending on what style one is after, not everything can be hand knitted. For fine gauge you might be able to crochet, but that would look quite different.

exactly . i'm not trying to suggest that hand or machine is better

BUT I am suggesting the products should be judged with that basis in mind .

for instance missoni or coogi are impeccable-by-machine . meanwhile bohus stickning or handknit fair isle ( see uncle ralphie ) are as good . prove me wrong

 

[elysiumfield]

exactly . i'm not trying to suggest that hand or machine is better

BUT I am suggesting the products should be judged with that basis in mind .

for instance missoni or coogi are impeccable-by-machine . meanwhile bohus stickning or handknit fair isle ( see uncle ralphie ) are as good . prove me wrong

I’m actually curious whether intarsia is ”easier” by hand or by machine.

And lovely to hear the expression Bohus sticking, I used to live in that small part of the world.

 

[tobiasfunke19]

no what is dbat

don't be a twat

 

[epsilon22]

this is not the point and is precisely the consumerist nut that I am trying to crack .

the point is to engender interest in craft .

this isn't about the internet . it's about material reality . I am sharing my knowledge freely here . happily . this isn't hard

And I do appreciate the knowledge you've shared in the past, from things related to construction, repair, to alterations.

But calling out people asking where to buy things as "consumerist" and telling them to learn the craft in order to appreciate the craft is just not very practical, isn't it? I am, and I believe many of us here, are definitely interested in craft and materials, otherwise we wouldn't be spending time looking at pictures and reading discussions.

Many of us are probably happy to pay a premium for well-made products from skilled craftspeople, but not all of us have the time or inclination to learn the craft and make our own knitwear. I don't see any problem in that, after all I don't need to learn tailoring or cordwaining to appreciate the details and styles of good suits and shoes. If exchanging money for product is consumerism then I guess all of us are consumerists.

If your goal is to make people more interested in the craft of hand-knitting, well, I'm sorry to say this condescension isn't doing it for me.

 

[Bartolo]

I think I should start looking into growing my own sheep too.

Zegna have sheep at Oasi Zegna. It's not a bad idea.

 

[MrBlues]

Zegna have sheep at Oasi Zegna. It's not a bad idea.

Unlimited supply of baby cashmere mmmm
my house would be a cashmere castle with throws and socks and full baby sets

 

[fabricateurialist]

Unlimited supply of baby cashmere mmmm
my house would be a cashmere castle with throws and socks and full baby sets

What are you gonna do with the mature goats though ? From grazing to griddle burger supply ?

 

[Bartolo]

Back to the consumerism. Loro Piana sure does make a NICE product. Nicer than nice IMHO. And prices in the EU are 30%+ less than in the US. US prices are stratospheric and I cannot fault anyone for speaking out against it for that reason alone.

 

[DorianGreen]

Just ordered this Drumohr cashmere turtleneck in EU48. It looks so nicely chunky. According to the measurements, 53cm chest width, it should fit well. I will report on arriving.

 

[enrico13]

Hi everyone,
selling a Loro Piana cashmere reversible bomber windmate. Can find it on my classifieds in case you're interested.

 

[JamaisAssez]

It’s fine to post there for promotional purposes. However - without sounding abrasive - please be realistic about your list prices. Second-hand clothing routinely go for at least 70%-80% off the MSRP. For instance, a jacket allegedly retailing for 3K would be listed at the 600-900 range, and even at this price it may be too high for it be to even be considerable.

 

[epsilon22]

Just ordered this Drumohr cashmere turtleneck in EU48. It looks so nicely chunky. According to the measurements, 53cm chest width, it should fit well. I will report on arriving.

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I have a sneaking suspicion that Dorian might have been a submarine crew in the navy in his previous life.