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This is awesome. So many companies falsely claim to be “sustainable” and “ethical” but this is clearly the real deal.We have quite high manufacturing costs because of alot of factors outside of just quality/materials. For one, the employees are paid on average 20% higher than similar companies. Secondly we produce almost all of our garments in house in Umbria, which is expensive because of the lack of supply chain here (small factory in the middle of farmland) as well as the fact that we don't outsource anything.
Most our high price is related to the way Brunello wants to operate the company, with respect for his workers as well as nature, which is an expensive way to do business.
Not to beat a dead horse, but I still don't understand @Charles Knight's calculation. I'm curious to know more, if he cares to explain.This is awesome. So many companies falsely claim to be “sustainable” and “ethical” but this is clearly the real deal.
Of course, there are always trade-offs, and in this case it’s the nosebleed prices.
I only have a few Cucinelli things, but I’m proud to own them.
They may be paid more than the industry standard, but how can they suit end up costing more than a bespoke Savile Row suit, given all the inputs?I’m curious about the specifics too.
But @Charles Knight made it clear that Cucinelli craftspeople are paid much more than the industry standard.
And I bet he‘d also make the point that actually sewing a garment is just one part of a process that involves multiple skilled artisans - the people sourcing the textiles, the patter-maker, the design etc.
I think about what it takes to hire and organize a skilled, specialized team in my field, and Cucinelli prices make perfect sense from that perspective.
Of course, I believe white-collar work should be on the same footing as skilled trades, which seems to be a minority view on Styleforum...
I'm not sure I understand your point.Whatever the standard wages are for certain jobs or countries has no bearing on Cucinelli, which is obviously an edge case. They may very well pay the highest wages in garment manufacturing period - who else would it be? Loro Piana? Hermes?
The average American family makes like $40k a year. That doesn't tell you anything about what a Goldman Sachs partner makes.
The specific point he's making is that British wages being on average higher than Italian wages =/= Saville Row wages being higher than BC wages. More broadly it's that applying a "standard" cost structure for BC is likely doesn't mean much given how different they are from standard companies.I'm not sure I understand your point.
Anyway, my guess is that Charles may have forgotten about wholesale mark ups, and that 3x mark up is from wholesale price to retail price, not manufacturing to retail.
Sure, but given the fuller picture, how would it make sense that a Cucinelli suit costs more than a bespoke Savile Row suit? You would have to increase the wage so much that it would almost seem fantastical. British wages are, on average, higher than Italian wages. A bespoke suit costs many more hours to make. Bespoke tailors likely pay more for their cloth. Like Cucinelli, they also keep everything domestic. Etc.The specific point he's making is that British wages being on average higher than Italian wages =/= Saville Row wages being higher than BC wages. More broadly it's that applying a "standard" cost structure for BC is likely doesn't mean much given how different they are from standard companies.