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Cary Grant: A Celebration of Style

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by richstyle, Aug 27, 2006.

  1. richstyle

    richstyle Well-Known Member

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    Seems like Mr. Grant eschewed printed ties, as he matured? I don't remember Mr. Grant in printed ties, during his later years.

    "The simpler the better," he said in the 1950s. So I guess that excluded patterns, thus the monochramatic North by Northwest look. --RT
     


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    Whoever made the decision re: TCAT, it seems right to me. John Robie would just not have looked right in a BD shirt. The character really called for some quintissentially Riviera elegance.

    It was Grant. He took suggestions but nobody, not even Hitchcock, told him
    what to wear.

    And nobody, to my mind, wore an ascot better. They're either worn too high or too low. I saw David Niven in some movie last night and he looked as if he was being strangled by his. --RT
     


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    Yes, of course. The older one gets, the more appealing simplicity, becomes. I always tell people who ask me, women especially . . . 'if you want to stand out in a room, upstage the rest of the crowd through simple lines, adorned cautiously with high quality accessories.' A foolproof recipe. Another thing: the better one's body . . . the simpler the clothes, should be.
     


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    Yes, of course. The older one gets, the more appealing simplicity, becomes. I always tell people who ask me, women especially . . . 'if you want to stand out in a room, upstage the rest of the crowd through simple lines, adorned cautiously with high quality accessories.' A foolproof recipe. Another thing: the better one's body . . . the simpler the clothes, should be.

    I think Nicole Kidman would agree; she's a good example of that.
     


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    Can the book be found in stores yet? I looked for it last week at B&N and Borders last week, but couldn't find it.

    Cheers,
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    Can the book be found in stores yet? I looked for it last week at B&N and Borders last week, but couldn't find it.

    Cheers,
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    It was at both my local B&N and Borders.
     


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    Which section? Looked in Biography and Film sections and front tables. Borders has the nifty computers to look it up. Said it had to be ordered. That was a week or two ago tho.

    Cheers,
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    I couldn't find it, either . . . had a very difficult time, locating the recent Ava Gardner bio, LOVE IS NOTHING . . . it was stashed in an obscure shelf, wayyyyy in a corner, at B & N. I will go there today, and ask specifically for this great new, book!

    Re. the Kidman comment . . . I guess, that's true. Always thought Babe Paley was an enormously chic woman. La Vicomtesse Jacqueline de Ribes, is another one. And I loved Nan Kempner, bless her soul.
     


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    Can the book be found in stores yet? I looked for it last week at B&N and Borders last week, but couldn't find it.

    Cheers,
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    It's just out. But I always find book stores hit or miss. It's available on amazon. And at a nice discount too.
     


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    Understood. It took me a couple months to find Manton's The Suit on bookstore shelves too.

    Look forward to it.

    Cheers,
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    I couldn't find it, either . . . had a very difficult time, locating the recent Ava Gardner bio, LOVE IS NOTHING . . . it was stashed in an obscure shelf, wayyyyy in a corner, at B & N. I will go there today, and ask specifically for this great new, book!

    Re. the Kidman comment . . . I guess, that's true. Always thought Babe Paley was an enormously chic woman. La Vicomtesse Jacqueline de Ribes, is another one. And I loved Nan Kempner, bless her soul.


    At my B&N Lee Server's Ava Gardner bio was on display in the back of the store, not easy to find but not all that difficult. Go figure. But I'd purchased it from amazon a while ago....

    And I just finished it, too. Great writer, vapid subject. Server's bio of Mitchum was terrific but I was bored stiff with Ava. A 500 page tome of description after description and quote after quote about how beautiful she was and how drunk she was and how slutty she was just got unbearably tiresome to me.

    And kind of depressing. She had all the breaks, all the luck, and she did absolutely nothing with them. That's my definition of a loser.

    And the Frank & Ava spats"”jeez, we've heard those a zillion times before.

    Don't mean to be harsh but I was really looking forward to this one. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.

    RT
     


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    Hi RT . . .

    Agree, the Gardner bio was no newsbreaker. Still, I devoured it. In this case, I think I'm prejudiced, in favor of the 'female lead.' I was crazy about Ava Gardner. I've seen the BAREFOOT CONTESSA, at least twenty times; Server's book reminded me of that script! In 'Contessa,' Maria Vargas rather navigates through life on novocaine, whining about her newfound good fortune, longing to play once again, in 'real' dirt.

    Ava always called herself a 'little hillbilly, from North Carolina.' She said she'd rather have been barefoot and pregnant, than to be a movie star.

    I understand your disappointment, in Server's book. But, I'm reminded of what Christie Hefner said, about Playboy Centerfolds: 'if the interviews with them, make these girls sound insipid . . . I've met many of them. And they, are insipid.'

    Perhaps there wasn't all that much more, to this woman . . . an excess of beauty, and not much else. [​IMG]
     


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    Some retailers won't have RT'S book, until September 4. I ordered, from amazon . . . available, at a sweet discount.
     


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    Isn't there a screen credit at the end of NbyNW that "Quintino of Beverly Hills" did the suit(s) he wore in the movie? Honest question, I seem to remember that, but I might have conjured it out of thin air.

    Grant was indeed a documented client of Quintino's. Kilgour says they did his suits in N by NW and that's from the horse's mouth. But you might be right. I'll have to check...
     


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    Hi RT . . .

    Agree, the Gardner bio was no newsbreaker. Still, I devoured it. In this case, I think I'm prejudiced, in favor of the 'female lead.' I was crazy about Ava Gardner. I've seen the BAREFOOT CONTESSA, at least twenty times; Server's book reminded me of that script! In 'Contessa,' Maria Vargas rather navigates through life on novocaine, whining about her newfound good fortune, longing to play once again, in 'real' dirt.

    Ava always called herself a 'little hillbilly, from North Carolina.' She said she'd rather have been barefoot and pregnant, than to be a movie star.

    I understand your disappointment, in Server's book. But, I'm reminded of what Christie Hefner said, about Playboy Centerfolds: 'if the interviews with them, make these girls sound insipid . . . I've met many of them. And they, are insipid.'

    Perhaps there wasn't all that much more, to this woman . . . an excess of beauty, and not much else. [​IMG]


    Got to give it to Lee Server. Although the topic wasn't my cup of tea, he writes one crackling good narrative. --RT
     


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