Cary Grant: A Celebration of Style

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  1. etl

    etl Senior member

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    Rich:

    re: "To Catch A Thief. Edith Head had no say in it."

    Having just watched TCAT this last weekend (in part from a discussion elsewhere,) there was a "Making of" reel included with the dvd and they went into detail about not letting Cary wear a button-down shirt because it was too American 50s and not period enough, as the movie was supposed to take place in the late 40s - directly post-War.

    According to the clip, that was when they made the switch to the striped shirt and foulard. I think they credit Head for this.
     


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    Edith Head took a lot of credit when it wasn't hers. Most notable would be her Oscar for costume design of "Breakfast at Tiffany's" when in fact, it was Hubert de Givenchy who created the items.
     


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    Wow, this is soooooo interesting!! I'll tell you one thing, as Label King pointed out: MISS HEAD gave HERSELF, lots of credit! Aside from Breakfast at Tiffany's, Miss Head took the OSCAR, for Sabrina, when it was OBVIOUS, that Givenchy had designed the most famous dress, in the film. I'm talking about the black cocktail dress with the little bows at the side of its high, geometric, BATEAU neck. Givenchy claimed this dress and a few other gowns, in Paris . . . but Head got the Oscar. She made no attempt to deny having designed the Givenchy clothes, in SABRINA, from all that I've read and heard. A feisty little lady, who once taught Spanish. To be truthful, I was never crazy about her work . . . much, MUCH, preferred Jean Louis.
     


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    Ivan, I recall Edith Head taught French. She also got her job by "borrowing" someone else's sketches.

    I also like Adrian's designs.
     


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    Rich: re: "To Catch A Thief. Edith Head had no say in it." Having just watched TCAT this last weekend (in part from a discussion elsewhere,) there was a "Making of" reel included with the dvd and they went into detail about not letting Cary wear a button-down shirt because it was too American 50s and not period enough, as the movie was supposed to take place in the late 40s - directly post-War. According to the clip, that was when they made the switch to the striped shirt and foulard. I think they credit Head for this.
    A buttondown shirt is American? Colonel Pinkerton-Portly must be turning in his grave.
     


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    not letting Cary wear a button-down shirt because it was too American 50s and not period enough, as the movie was supposed to take place in the late 40s
    And, with French cuffs!
    [​IMG]
     


  7. Ivan Kipling

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    Label, my sister concurs, on the Spanish . . . we heard Head say this, on a talk show . . . that IS, if she was telling the truth! Correct, about the borrowing aspect of Ms. Head's entree, into 'the business.' That's what I read, too . . .

    I liked Adrian. I think his witch's costume, in THE WIZARD OF OZ, was a masterpiece. He did Joan Crawford's costumes, for HUMORESQUE, which is my favorite movie, of all time.

    But for elegance, sensuality, fluidity and grace, I'll take Jean Louis.
     


  8. Ivan Kipling

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    Seems like Mr. Grant eschewed printed ties, as he matured? I don't remember Mr. Grant in printed ties, during his later years.
     


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    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Whoever made the decision re: TCAT, it seems right to me. John Robie would just not have looked right in a BD shirt. The character really called for some quintissentially Riviera elegance.
     


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    i had meant "buttondown collar" please excuse my haste.
     


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    Ivan, I recall Edith Head taught French.

    You're both right. After college, she taught Spanish at the Bishop School in La Jolla, California, then French at the Hollywood School for Girls
     


  12. Ivan Kipling

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    Thank you, Tomasso . . . [​IMG]
     


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    John Robie would just not have looked right in a BD shirt. The character really called for some quintissentially Riviera elegance.
    Maybe Robie could have worn the BD when he was impersonating an American lumber tycoon.
     


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    Maybe Robie could have worn the BD when he was impersonating an American lumber tycoon.
    Now that is a good idea. Ever thought of becoming a costume designer?
     


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    [​IMG]

    The best looking lumber tycoon, I ever saw . . .
     


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