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[clee1982]

Everything You Need To Know About The Nissan 400Z

The automotive industry moves in cycles as styles of vehicles move in and out of fashion. Perhaps as a reaction to the car becoming more and more homogenized into appliances, we're currently seeing sports cars come back into the limelight. In 2019 we saw two big names hit hard, with the all-new...

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didn't know Nissan is looking to finally upgrade

 

[HRoi]

Nice write-up on the new Bronco:

2021 Ford Bronco Is Here, and It's Everything You Hoped For

The Bronco returns with a manual transmission, removable top and doors, and a $29,995 base price. Oh, and it has a Sasquatch package.

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Can’t remember a time in recent history I was as excited by the release of new (relatively) affordable car.

What a looker! Everything Land Rover failed to do with the new Defender.

The Bronco does look pretty amazing. I can appreciate it even though I’m the last person that would use it as Ford intended. I like the design, the attention to detail, and the careful consideration of how a specific target audience would use the vehicle.

I think it’s a good sign that the American car industry is producing competitive, well thought-out vehicles meant at beating everyone at a specific purpose. Like the Shelbies, the Corvette, the F150 and now this Bronco. After a very very long period of half-assing almost everything they brought to market and relying on brand loyalty to sell their crap.

 

[jbarwick]

Everything You Need To Know About The Nissan 400Z

The automotive industry moves in cycles as styles of vehicles move in and out of fashion. Perhaps as a reaction to the car becoming more and more homogenized into appliances, we're currently seeing sports cars come back into the limelight. In 2019 we saw two big names hit hard, with the all-new...

carbuzz.com

didn't know Nissan is looking to finally upgrade

Based on what Nissan offers currently, it will come out with old tech and they will keep it around without ever updating it.

 

[Thrift Vader]

if it'ts a GTR with a soft top?

can agree.

 

[Jmm722]

Nissan created the GTR and hasn’t done anything to improve it really. It’s pretty sad that it went from an affordable supercar to “oh they still make that?”

I really like the Bronco for unexplainable reasons. Just seems fun. The ecoboost motors (4 and 6 cylinder) and A10 are both really good.

It’s also pretty affordable. I hope they make a fast version for cruising eventually. Throw the 5.0 in there.

 

[otc]

The Bronco does look pretty amazing. I can appreciate it even though I’m the last person that would use it as Ford intended. I like the design, the attention to detail, and the careful consideration of how a specific target audience would use the vehicle.

I think it’s a good sign that the American car industry is producing competitive, well thought-out vehicles meant at beating everyone at a specific purpose. Like the Shelbies, the Corvette, the F150 and now this Bronco. After a very very long period of half-assing almost everything they brought to market and relying on brand loyalty to sell their crap.

Seems like it is everything the wrangler *should* be...rather than a piece of junk with dated technology and poor quality control.

Of course, like the wrangler, they'll probably sell hundreds of thousands of them to people who have zero need for any of its fancy offroad features (actually they'll probably sell more, because it looks way cooler).

 

[flipstah]

The New Bronco is hot. Base trim + 4 cylinder/manual trans + Sasquatch package = winner.

 

[clee1982]

yup, if I'm in the burbs I'll get one, in 2 years my car would lost more value than the base price of this anyway

 

[flipstah]

Potholes are driving me nuts around the city. It's like driving in a rally stage; time for SUV?

 

[UnFacconable]

Not gonna lie, had always thought that a Jeep Grand Cherokee was the most "on brand" vehicle for my wife and I, and assumed when/if we move to the burbs we would get one.

Given how long in the tooth the JGC is, and how much uncertainty there is with FCA generally, and the upcoming redesign of the JGC on the Stelvio platform, that is likely no longer an inevitability.

I had been telling my wife over the last few weeks how all of the leaks were making the Bronco look pretty good and that it might be the new on-brand vehicle for us and she’s pretty much on board. Would be a fun Tahoe car, if not the best for the drive up there, and the kids would love it. Bonus points for authenticity since my wife learned to drive on a manual Bronco.

I joke about whether a car is “on brand” but it does represent a small factor for us. It’s a bit hard to describe, but within the context of my life and who I’ve lived around and known, I feel like a car like the Bronco or JGC or Tahoe/Suburban makes more sense for us than a Range Rover or German SUV. No offense to people that drive the latter, many of them are perfectly fine, but they seem a bit too precious for what I want out of an SUV. I can say, with relatively little qualifications, that I wouldn’t want to be associated with G class drivers tho.

Anyway, tl; dr the Bronco is a great new addition to the domestic SUV universe and I will definitely keep it in mind. There are a lot of damn trims which makes it tough to figure out how to equip, but that will also makes for more variety in the metal.

 

[clee1982]

Potholes are driving me nuts around the city. It's like driving in a rally stage; time for SUV?

get a softer car

 

[clee1982]

if you're in the SUV crowd "for real", I'm not sure you would look at Bronco, isn't it a bit "too hardcore", I mean people want that image, but then it has to be fake hardcore. For example you could bought Jeep if you want that image but it would ride like s*it.

I can see lots of young people pick it up though, given how cheap it is. In reality if I'm in the burb and I want "utility", then I would say a truck is better than SUV... (put junk on the bed and forget, better yet get steel bumper...)

 

[Jmm722]

If they put the Raptor or Focus RS engines ecoboost in to Bronco that’d be pretty pretty good, because there’s an aftermarket for both. You don’t need 500hp, but some pep would be nice for a cruiser version.

There’s too many trims IMO, just like Jeep. The prices range from $29-65k as well, which means the fit and finish will suffer somewhat like the Ecoboost Mustang and GT350/500 run into.

 

[flipstah]

There's definitely going to be a Bronco Raptor. Jeep is testing Hellcat Wranglers right now so they're prepping.

The 4 banger on the Bronco is the same as the Ranger, which I think came from the Focus ST or maybe the RS....

The Golf Alltrack is mighty nice and lots of incentive to get them off the shelves.

 

[clee1982]

If they put the Raptor or Focus RS engines ecoboost in to Bronco that’d be pretty pretty good, because there’s an aftermarket for both. You don’t need 500hp, but some pep would be nice for a cruiser version.

There’s too many trims IMO, just like Jeep. The prices range from $29-65k as well, which means the fit and finish will suffer somewhat like the Ecoboost Mustang and GT350/500 run into.

a ridiculous hp Bronco kind defeat the purpose though, no better for off road, and on road is still probably not as good as "performance SUV" whatever that means