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Cars We Drive!

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. GreenFrog

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    As long as they retain dat snap crackle and pop, should be fine.
     
  2. venividivicibj

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    You mean the pumped in sound?
     
  3. HRoi

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    That's a false equivalence, and honestly, a bit disparaging. No one is saying hand cranking is better than electric starters. A lot of people still prefer high revving, great sounding NA motors, and see a greater benefit in them despite the undeniable efficiency advantage of FI.

    Have "enthusiasts" drive a GT3 and a Turbo together, and they'll all have a clear preference for one or the other. And neither of them would be wrong. But what if you never had a choice?
     
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    Porsche won't screw up something as important as the exhaust note. That much is fact.
     
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  6. GreenFrog

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    Ugh, turbo flat fours for the boxster and cayman?

    Fuck. That. Noise.
     
  7. Find Finn

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    The current Turbo is a TT, so no news there.
     
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    I don't really care about 4s vs 6s, I just care about torque curves and power. Frankly I don't care about engine noise either - I'd rather have a sports car that was silent.
     
  9. HRoi

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    You want a turbo then. Or a tesla
     
  10. bawlin

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    People were up in arms over the 488 being turbocharged, yet Chris Harris tested it and said it sounded just like a 458.

    Like I said, I can't imagine Porsche screwing up something as important as the 911.
     
  11. Find Finn

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    People are idiots, it's the same with (almost) everything new until they try it.
     
  12. mimo

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    On the plus side, some dyed-in-the-wool Porsche nuts will be glad to see the 911 getting smaller - more sport and less tourer - like the earlier versions. And although it is a massive change, in some ways the principle is really quite a natural fit for Porsche: there was a time when engines were improved by adding cubes and cylinders, and Porsche always insisted on staying with smaller and more efficient engines. So maybe it's not so bad.

    Still, that GT3 of yours is probably looking like a very good buy right now. A GT4 on order might be a real unicorn in not too many years.
     
  13. Stone

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    5.2L naturally aspirated flat-plane crank V8. 8250 RPM redline (!!!) $48k.

    I want this thing so bad.
     
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  14. mimo

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    Talking of adding cubes and cylinders....

    I'm glad the Big Three in the US can still see room for both in their offerings: making some of their big sellers more efficient, but still able to revel in the unique indulgence of the American muscle car for those who like that sort of thing. (I've not driven one, but I think I might). New Mustang, Dodge's Hellcat, the Camaro Z whateveritis and that's just for the modest end. So the year's not all been about restraint and austerity, has it?
     
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    I'm with you 1000%. The sound plus redline height is nutso. Gotta say, the GT350 and its R variant are the coolest cars by an American company in so long.
     
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    Don't forget the new gen Viper. It's leagues more refined than its predecessors and still a total track beast. IMO one of the best looking cars around.
     
  17. mimo

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    Indeed. The 'Vette is no slouch either.
     
  18. otc

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    I think the big 3 can do it because lots of people are content with buying a shitbox chevy because it is cheap.

    I don't see Porsche stuffing the ballot box with a 1.4L 2-door economy hatchback for $14k
     
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    Had the very first year of the WRX. Very fun car but the turbo lag was annoying. Ill take a NA V8 anyday. Or the NA inline-six of the old M3 for that matter (current M1 engine). NA is the shiznitz.

    That being said ive never driven a Porsche Turbie so maybe I lack sufficient breadth of experience on the lag issue.

    Now, the supercharged CTS-V motor? Thats a lag worth waiting for :p
     
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    Yeah, I think NA is cool too, but the supercharger on my V is pretty awesome. Driving around town, you never notice it. However, if you get on (and stay on) the throttle a little bit...the PSI needle jumping as the supercharger kicks in, feeling that extra wave of torque rolling in behind you, the crazy whining sound...it's great.
     
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