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[Superfluous]



How about the Cayman GTS instead?

http://jalopnik.com/2014-porsche-boxster-and-cayman-gts-will-cost-75-000-1410686769

The thing with the Cayman, and basically any Porsche, is that you have to add about $20k onto the base price to get a real car. I was looking at the Cayman S, and the minimum I would need it equipped came out to about $82k before taxes. It's just not worth that cost.

 

[jet]

you don't need all those "superfluous" options it's a cayman not a cayenne

 

[Superfluous]



Piob, interested to hear why you are so anti-owning. I get leasing something like an S class that depreciates like a rock, but can't say I'd consider leasing a more "normal" car.

I think leasing almost never works in your favor. The only time I see it being advantageous is if you wreck your car (loss of value), the value plummets like a rock, or the car has so many pricey options that you wouldn't recover the cost of on resale.

 

[Superfluous]



you don't need all those "superfluous" options it's a cayman not a cayenne

I don't think you realize how basic the car is without the options.

 

[jet]

So why don't you list your must have options?

 

[A Y]

I just looked at the Monroney for my gen 1 Cayman, and I got $5920 in options. Porsche is notorious for its extensive and expensive options, but the actual car isn't really that bare, especially for a sports car. Here are my options:

- full leather interior (most expensive at $2095)
- self-dimming mirrors & rain sensor
- bi-xenon headlights
- leather sport seats
- 3-spoke sports steering wheel
- sound package plus
- automatic climate control
- floor mats

Just for the heck of it, I configured a current Cayman S, and my options came to around $8800, mostly because they offer some performance options (PTV and sport suspension) that they didn't in gen 1, and a couple of the options are more expensive.

 

[suited]



College buddy of mine had a IROC Z in school. While it felt brutally fast, it squeaked louder than a cheap mattress under a fat couple. I told him that he was driving a redneck Ferarri but I knew I would never ever EVERY own one. He also had a K5 Blazer, the kind with the removable rear section.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

he was black

I loved my Z28 in high school, but have no experience with, and haven't even sat in, anything newer than a '93. My first car was a '91 RS, though I very much wanted the Z28 we test drove, but my father thought I would kill myself in it. It wasn't until 2 years later I finally bought one. It came with a borla exhaust and a few other bolt-ons - it sounded amazing. Driving that thing down country roads in the autumn when I was 18 will probably be the best experience I'll ever have behind the wheel of a car. The new Z28 is fast as ****. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013...camaro-z28-has-good-fast-time-at-nurburgring/

The stripped down muscle car dispensed of the 154-turn, 12.9-mile-long circuit through Germany’s Eifel mountains in 7:37.47, putting it ahead of a list of notable exotic sports cars that includes the $100,000 Porsche 911 Carerra S, $240,000 Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera and $400,000 Lexus LFA

Edit - did not see this a few pages back. Oh well.

 

[Find Finn]



new 228i is actually not so bad. I wouldn't want one, but it's a) a lot better looking than the 1er coupe, and b) $31,500 base, 240hp, 0-60 in 5.4s.... which is what the E36 M3 did, in $34,995 worth of 1994 dollars...

The 1 series coupe has really grown on me the last couple of years especially the 135i, so the new 2 series should be interesting.

 

[David23]

new 228i is actually not so bad. I wouldn't want one, but it's a) a lot better looking than the 1er coupe, and b) $31,500 base, 240hp, 0-60 in 5.4s.... which is what the E36 M3 did, in $34,995 worth of 1994 dollars...

Love everything except for the rear end.

 

[HRoi]

Nurburgring is the new 0-60 for bragging rights benchmarks. Since we're talking about camaros, I looked up the time of the SS that I hate so much. Pretty respectable, actually.

Unnecessarily heavy and large, didn't like how it transitions weight, ****** brake feel, garbage steering, and it still edges an e46 m3 around the ring.

So once again, objective criteria are not always the whole story. I guess the flip side of that argument is that Camaros are a great performance bargain if you don't need refinement (or poor steering and visibility, or if you don't mind trim pieces popping off while cornering)

 

[aravenel]



I think leasing almost never works in your favor. The only time I see it being advantageous is if you wreck your car (loss of value), the value plummets like a rock, or the car has so many pricy options that you wouldn't recover the cost of on resale.

I completely agree. I need to go back and find piob's argument, I am interested to hear it.

 

[idfnl]



College buddy of mine had a IROC Z in school.  While it felt brutally fast, it squeaked louder than a cheap mattress under a fat couple.  I told him that he was driving a redneck Ferarri but I knew I would never ever EVERY own one.

I was free upgraded once into renting one. What a *************. Steering like a 70's Lincoln, awful futurist interior, I felt like a tool driving around in it.

 

[Superfluous]



So why don't you list your must have options?

Metallic color
Colored wheel crest
Leather interior two-tone. (this is with only 2 way seats, if I selected a real seat, it would bump up the price another 2500+)
Infotainment package
Convenience package
Xenon headlights
Parkassist (got it on my new car and it's awesome)
PDK (infinitely better than manual)
Power steering plus (tested one with and without, and it needs it I think)
Sport chrono package (makes a huge difference, tested one with and without)
Multifunction steering wheel

$82,435

Then if I configured it similar to the car I actually got, it was up to $91,205.

This is all starting off a $63,800 base price for the Cayman S.

 

[jet]

oh ok I gotcha, thought you were looking for a sports car not a luxury car

 

[Superfluous]



oh ok I gotcha, thought you were looking for a sports car not a luxury car

Looking for an everyday car that has basic features found in $20,000 cars. Two-way seats? No navigation system? No heated seats? That's a joke for a $60k+ car.