Cars We Drive!

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. Douglas

    Douglas Stupid ass member

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    Oh well, like you say, they are hard to compare over the years.
     


  2. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Senior member

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    Also, the U.S. spec E36 was dumbed down and noticeably slower than its Euro counterpart.
     


  3. clee1982

    clee1982 Senior member

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    More torque, A LOT less hp (320 vs 240), can't say it's a boring car at 240hp though
     


  4. horndog

    horndog Senior member

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    That's funny, I had a conversation with two E36 enthusiasts just last night and they went on and on about the euro spec E36 M3. I had no idea how badly BMW neutered the US spec. 320hp to 240 is a cock punch. And we're talking 90s cars. A euro spec M3 must have been a road going murder weapon 20 years ago.
     


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    Original EU spec has 280hp, then it has 320 hp on the last 2 years? The US one is just different engine, not detune
     


  6. HRoi

    HRoi Senior member

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    The funny thing is that even the castrated US spec was still the best sports 4-seater by quite a margin. M3 enthusiasts in the States have gotten shafted with every generation - no E30 Evo, 240 hp E36, no E46 CSL, no E92 GTS.

    Not totally BMW's fault but it still sucks
     


  7. Rumpelstiltskin

    Rumpelstiltskin Senior member

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    The US E36 M3 didn't really have a "M" motor but was actually just a slightly bored out 328 motor. Less hp, less torque, 1 less gear, smaller airbox, missing oil cooler, different brakes, different suspension. The only reason 0-60 times were close was because the US had different gearing.
     


  8. David23

    David23 Well-Known Member

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    If you guys are interested in the differences between the US E36 M3 and Euro version, take a look here. Completely different cars, so the link saves me the time writing up the engine differences. lol

    E36 M3 3.0
    http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=14

    E36 M3 3.2
    http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=15



    It's a shame we never got the E46 M3 CSL. Will go down in history as the best M3 ever and I expect the value to increase over time. True collectors car.
     


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    Still would take an E46 M3 CSL over the E92 GTS....:D
     


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    To me, the chief selling point of the M3 is that it's a practical sports car, so it makes a lot of sense when fairly new. If I were buying a couple of generations old, like the E36 and E46, I'd go with the Z3 Coupe or Z4 M Coupe (again - I had one). No need to compromise if it's going to be an occasional toy.
     


  11. impolyt_one

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    If that is real, it's rare as shit - only 14 made:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_365
     


  12. bawlin

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    Definitely real. Definitely rare. Great spot!
     


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    poorsod Senior member

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    Given that I saw it in East Hampton, I think it is reasonable to expect that it is bona fide.

    I'm not sure if you can tell from the picture but the interior is absolutely luxurious.
     
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    Would like to add the BMW 1M is also amazing. Believe value is already rising.
     


  15. Rumpelstiltskin

    Rumpelstiltskin Senior member

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    1M value is rising?
     


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