Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.
Oh well, like you say, they are hard to compare over the years.
Also, the U.S. spec E36 was dumbed down and noticeably slower than its Euro counterpart.
More torque, A LOT less hp (320 vs 240), can't say it's a boring car at 240hp though
That's funny, I had a conversation with two E36 enthusiasts just last night and they went on and on about the euro spec E36 M3. I had no idea how badly BMW neutered the US spec. 320hp to 240 is a cock punch. And we're talking 90s cars. A euro spec M3 must have been a road going murder weapon 20 years ago.
Original EU spec has 280hp, then it has 320 hp on the last 2 years? The US one is just different engine, not detune
The funny thing is that even the castrated US spec was still the best sports 4-seater by quite a margin. M3 enthusiasts in the States have gotten shafted with every generation - no E30 Evo, 240 hp E36, no E46 CSL, no E92 GTS.
Not totally BMW's fault but it still sucks
The US E36 M3 didn't really have a "M" motor but was actually just a slightly bored out 328 motor. Less hp, less torque, 1 less gear, smaller airbox, missing oil cooler, different brakes, different suspension. The only reason 0-60 times were close was because the US had different gearing.
If you guys are interested in the differences between the US E36 M3 and Euro version, take a look here. Completely different cars, so the link saves me the time writing up the engine differences. lol
E36 M3 3.0
E36 M3 3.2
It's a shame we never got the E46 M3 CSL. Will go down in history as the best M3 ever and I expect the value to increase over time. True collectors car.
Still would take an E46 M3 CSL over the E92 GTS....
To me, the chief selling point of the M3 is that it's a practical sports car, so it makes a lot of sense when fairly new. If I were buying a couple of generations old, like the E36 and E46, I'd go with the Z3 Coupe or Z4 M Coupe (again - I had one). No need to compromise if it's going to be an occasional toy.
If that is real, it's rare as shit - only 14 made:
Definitely real. Definitely rare. Great spot!
Given that I saw it in East Hampton, I think it is reasonable to expect that it is bona fide.
I'm not sure if you can tell from the picture but the interior is absolutely luxurious.
Would like to add the BMW 1M is also amazing. Believe value is already rising.
1M value is rising?
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