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Cars We Drive!

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. HRoi

    HRoi Senior member

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    I wonder what happens if AMG would actually be able to put its power to the ground? :p
     
  2. David23

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    BMW M and Audi > AMG
     
  3. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Makes for a quick ride over to Home Depot.


     
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    Yeah but a company's goodwill is destroyed if they offer to pay for electricity and then start charging for it a few years later. People are absolutely banking on free power when they run the cost/benefit analysis and make a determination to buy this car. So I'm just saying that it's going to be a material ding on profits once Tesla is charging 50-100k of these things regularly for free. Ultimately the company needs to actually make money producing cars.
     
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    Hydrogen is the best friend of the oil industry. I mean, when a clown like Bush was touting it as the future, you know something is wrong. Its a long way off and to many unfeasible. Just think of the potential explosions. Its 20 years off, minimum.




    I was expecting another Jeremy Clarkson sideways lap. The guy drove well, nice to see.




    I agree. The goal is to get to a critical mass. I'd be willing to pay a few bucks for a charge. At my office, there are charging stations. I could charge for free 99% of the time today. By the way, a full charge runs about $6 from home.




    Per above, I don't agree. They are making the right move eliminating a major drawback of electric cars. Its a start-up cost. I don't think buyers believe it would be free forever, I accept its a benefit gotten now for early adoption.
     
  6. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Drove my wife's R32 yesterday for the first time in about 2 years. What a great car. It has to be one of the most fun cars for the $$$. It feels great, has a lot of spunk, it's compact enough to make parking a breeze and has plenty of room to carry things on a trip.
     
  7. Find Finn

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    Ask Jon Olsson ;)



    I have a mate with a 6.2 V8 W212 E63 a blower on it and he says it likes to let the ass go, the new ones comes with option for 4x4, so that should help.


    The old RS6 was in the same region after a remap, I think the F10 M5 gets up their as well.
     
  8. Find Finn

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    Prefer the Cooper S to the R32.
     
  9. MarioImpemba

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    I'm not sure if buying a +$60k car based on any sort of fuel-savings/cost-justification is more hilarious or sad.

    I haven't spent that much cumulatively in 15 years of car ownership, including maintenance, fuel and insurance.

    This is tantamount to justifying $1600 John Lobbs as savings over $40 Converse; don't feed me bullshit that it is primarily a financial-based decision.
     
  10. idfnl

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    I'm not sure I see your point because people buy cars and Lobbs for different reasons. What you've spent in the last 15 years might not justify something for you, but what I have spent in the last 5 does for me so it may not be economically viable to you but it might be for others. I spend approx $4000 a year just on car maintenance. To drop that to $900 is significant. I spend between $3000 and $5000 on fuel. Dropping that to $500 is again significant.

    $9000 vs $1400... is that hilarious or sad?

    A car has to check a lot more boxes than raw economics, but you better believe I wouldn't mind trimming my maintenance budget and not giving my money to OPEC.
     
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    In the last five years I think I've spent 2k on maintaining the two Benzes I've had. I had no idea what a deal I was getting!
     
  12. GusW

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    Coopers are fun little cars but an S has about 180hp while an R32 has 240+hp. Much prefer the ride and driving position in the R32.
     
  13. Blackhood

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    I mentioned before, but for me the Mini just doesn't feel like a robust car compared to a Golf.
     
  14. Find Finn

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    Compared to a mk4 r32, which is the only one I've tried I by far prefer the Cooper, it just feels much more responsive, in the end it's a preference/driving style thing.
     
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    John cooper works would be a better comparison. My gf has one that's upped to 230 bhp. Clutches come and go, but 'monster' as she calls it, is a blast to drive. Although any drive over 45 min would require earplugs due to the stainless straight exhaust..
     
  16. Find Finn

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    On danish city roads the normal S is more than sufficient and I have done some crazy shit in coopers, including scaring a grown man, who just had been tearing up a E61 540.
     
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    The main reason I don't like the tesla is that it looks like a cheap car and the enormous ipad console looks ridiculous. I think I saw somewhere they had a range of about 200 miles. What happens if you're driving further? Are there random places for you to charge up? If so, how long does that take?
     
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    Saw several in Chicago last weekend. Got a close up look at one parked in front of my hotel. Beautiful.
     
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    To each his own, but you have a 17 in screen doing nav. That's badass. And the car's software updates itself over 3G. The car comes with internet. Best thing about that console: no moving parts.

    The range is more than 200 miles. Read previous posts about charging stations.
     
  20. UnFacconable

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    I'm with IDFNL, not hard to imagine electric vehicles taking a huge chunk of the market. The simplicity of the drivetrain has many advantages. Eliminating gas stations for 95% of all refueling needs is huge for convenience.

    I think someone (GF?) mentioned hybrids as a better compromise but to me hybrids are mostly hype. They do great in the city, but most city drivers don't drive that many miles. The only people piling up big miles in the city are taxi drivers (or I guess people with pink mustaches on their cars). My guess is that most people putting 12k+ miles a year do a lot of their driving on the freeway where the advantages of hybrids are minimal - better off with diesel if you drive on the freeway. Prius' are a notable exception, they do great on the freeway, but most other hybrids do worse than comparable diesel.
     

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