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Cars We Drive!

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. JayJay

    JayJay Senior member

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    CTS looks good in the pics. Need to see it IRL.
     
  2. Cary Grant

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    Need some help from the BMW owners.

    Looking to trade in my FIAT 500 for a small used SUV or car that MUST have AWD and cargo space. Want to keep the price below 20,000.

    Found a 2007 X3 M Sport that was just traded in yesterday. Loaded, clean reports, one owner who paid cash originally and looks like he pampered it. 53,000 miles.
    Drove it for 20 minutes and liked it quite a bit. I read online that gaskets leaking are common around 60k. I'd have it inspected first... my only minor concern is the tiny foot well, when wearing chunkier shoes the fit between the brake and tunnel is very tight.

    Biggest concern with it is reliability and repair costs.

    Thoughts on this one?

    Alternatives are slightly newer vehicles ala Ford Edge/Escape... Audi A4's, a couple of VW CC's... also an Infiniti M35 that goes like a bat outta hell and is also loaded but is a bit of a grandpas car...
    I'm getting to an age where getting in an out of an SUV feels better though.
     
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    Go to the detroitnews.com page and look up the pics for the new Jeep Cherokee. FUGLY.
     
  4. Cary Grant

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    Yup- it is the replacement for the Liberty, now using the "Cherokee" name.

    By contrast I think the new GRAND Cherokee looks pretty good.
     
  5. Jr Mouse

    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It is fugly and I could easily see them going "retro" in a future update to please fans if they don't sell.
     
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    the thing I like the least about a pre-2010 X3 is the fact that it's a pre-2010 X3. "Ultimate Driving Machine" it ain't.



    I have not tried the redesign.
     
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  7. Cary Grant

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    Say more- I've never owned a Bimmer and I am not really buying it to be a tall 3 Series... or a Sports Car.
     
  8. Cary Grant

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    I may be an idiot for buying a used Bimmer if I want to keep repair costs down... :uhoh:
     
  9. gomestar

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    i know nothing about the repair costs there (even though my family owns plenty of BMW's), but the old X3 was sort of lame (yes, I did test one out). Just didn't feel nearly as good as other BMW's, the ride wasn't as nice, road noise seemed high, it didn't seem particularly nimble, it seemed sluggish, it didn't respond to the road like other BMWs, etc.

    If it had to be a BMW, which in my case is yes, that wasn't a large SUV, had AWD, and cargo, I'd pick a 328xi wagon or something. IMO much better than the old X3.
     
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  10. Cary Grant

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    BMW wagons, 3's or 5's are very scarce here. all of a few listed that are either too old or too new.
     
  11. Cary Grant

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    There are a few 2007-8 5-series sedans with AWD available in the right $$$ but all tend to have 90k plus miles.
     
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  12. whiteslashasian

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    Why not an Audi A6 Avant (avoid the turbo ones) or Q5?

    There's also the Volvo XC (XC70) that's worth a look. Not particularly fast but are solid.
     
  13. razl

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    Not quite IRL, but here's a real-world shot from today's NY reveal:

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    As a former 1st gen 2006 CTS-V owner (damn, I loved that car!) and a CTS enthusiast + Caddy reinvention follower:

    • I liked it better when the CTS was aligned between the 3 and 5; to me it was the perfect size. Now they're aligning the ATS vs. 3 and CTS vs. 5 which, I think, will lose them some points.
    • That said, the CTS clocks in at 3600lbs which is amazingly lightweight for today, so maybe they're aligning for a reason: they're planning on winning (gasp).
    • I hate seeing the CTS losing the vertical stacked headlights, even if they're replacing them with vertical lightwork (which I'm not sure is going to age well, we'll see)
    • No more manual, ugh. If they delete it for the V too, well, it's off my list.
    • Caddy has abandoned Art and Science. I wish they would have updated and extended it; I really liked the chiseled "stealth fighter" look of gen1+2. I fear they're getting away from what worked well.
    • The interior looks Audi level. Let's hope hands-on, tactile impressions confirm it.
    • Magnetic Ride Control avail on non-V versions is fantastic. And the V-Sport version @ 420hp/430lbft=4.6@60 specs out great for those who don't need the (presumably) fire-breathing full on V that will come after.

    In the end, I like most of it (especially the weight, engine lineup, and interior) but it's doesn't strike me as a CTS, it strikes me as something else. Pricing is TBD.

    Since I'm reminiscing, here's a pic from my for-sale ad of my beloved gen1 V. It lines up nicely for comparison with the above pic of the new gen3:

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  14. Cary Grant

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    Q5 would be great but too $$$.

    The very few A6 Avants here are old and tired. I am test driving an A4 Avant tomorrow that looks promising.
     
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  15. impolyt_one

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    My dad was in the same boat and just wanted a cheap enough used BMW or Audi wagon recently (has had them before, we always had Volvos in our family but I think he got over them sometime in the 90's and we haven't had a Ford-era Volvo) - anyway, those wagons are incredibly scarce. The few that exist in America are either out on the west coast, the northeast, or are ex-lease cars that get herded into for-ebay clearinghouse dealers that are typically in Missouri or Texas, or similar states (low taxes and cheap land for dealerships like that)
    He waited quite awhile and ended up getting a 328Xi wagon. Wish he would've listened to me and bought a 535Xi wagon; they're a little expensive still but I think he overpaid for the 3 (as most people do) and the 5 is so much more car.
     
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    How are the 5 series wagons WRT reliability? Also (a little off topic, apologies), has anyone here attempted to change out a faulty RR air strut on their own?
     
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  17. impolyt_one

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    I haven't had a newer 5, or even a BMW in awhile , but if it was 3 Xi wagon vs six cyl 5, I can't think of much on the 5 that would cost much more than the equivalent part on the 3, apart from maybe the rear suspension on the 5's that have typically been air self-leveling (not sure if they still have that anymore anyway) They have mostly the same drivetrains. A 535Xi vs a 328Xi might be a bit more because of the twin turbo system, but they're basically the same mechanically and just a little bigger in the wrapper. Sometimes 5er's have lower insurance rates than the 3er in the US because of the driver group that tends to flock towards the 3er. I had that 540i in college and it was cheaper to insure than a Civic - I know for sure because I had a Civic previous to the BMW and just transferred the same coverage plan over.
     
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    ?????
     
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    Since we are discussing BMW's: had a minor collision that is my fault so now need a new front bumper. Thank god the e34's have such a long front lip bumper or I would be sinking more.
     
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    I don't get this either. The main reason I didn't go from 3 to 5 is that there isn't much more to it. Same engines (save the V8) and a wee bit (if that) more interior space. I do like the double moonroof feature of the 5 wagons, tho.
     

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