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Back when I lived in Korea, the head honcho always rode in the back seat behind the front passenger seat. And the driver was, well, the driver.


The reason for that, I think, is that Koreans like to crank that empty front passenger seat way forward and give the back opposite seat lots of legroom. You notice this in cabs as well. It's closer to the curb, yes, but also it's the back seat with the most potential legroom. I can imagine it might similar in China. In Japan, I notice most driven cars putting their passengers behind the driver's seat - after all, the driver should also get out of the car and open and close the door and direct traffic if opening a door into traffic.

The logic behind riding behind the driver is very simple - you have something in front of you to lessen an impact, and also you're on the same axis in case the car makes hard maneuvers. The opposite back seat feels those turns more.
 

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MB Manhattan will go a few steps further. They will pick up and deliver the car or MB loaner to your garage. They will also drive you to your office or destination. I bring my car in for service and schedule appointments, so it is free parking for the day and they drive me to my meeting.


oh no my dealership will pick up my car... they'll drop off a chevy sonic though.

No, I was being serious - where I live (and have lived for the past 10 years) - I would never think about riding shotgun unless it were a) a family member, or b) a friend driving. I was just wondering the etiquette when it comes to driven cars like that in the USA - I, personally, would never take the front seat, unless it were a car with a ridiculous backseat (911, MB SL, 3-series coupe, etc)
There is a 'respect' placement for car seats in Asia - driver defers the most respect, VIP rides in the rear seat behind the driver, 2nd in command rides in the backseat opposite, least liked besides the driver (who is a worker) rides shotty, and then the middle rear if a bench seat is a toss-up - maybe a slight bit better than shotty if you're literally rubbing elbows with luminaries.


my understanding is: VIP rides in the rear seat opposite the driver (no headrest so VIP can see out front window), secretary sits shotgun, yes man sits behind the driver. (secretary is shorter than headrest normally)

source: Pops was 1%
 
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Yes, I think there are two systems, it's just a matter of rear seat hierarchy. If you google 'Japanese car seating etiquette' you see that people agree to put the VIP behind the driver, whereas a googling 'car seating etiquette' alone usually pulls up the opposite placement, possibly American? I know what you're talking about with the headrest removed and everything, though, I've also observed this.
 

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I've got to sell 2 used cars. I've been pricing them online with Kelly, NADA, and Edmonds and all the values differ WILDLY. As in several thousands between the sites. Any recommendation as to which I should use?

Also, I'm going to list them on Craigslist and AutoTrader. Any other sites worth while?

Thanks
 

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I've got to sell 2 used cars. I've been pricing them online with Kelly, NADA, and Edmonds and all the values differ WILDLY. As in several thousands between the sites. Any recommendation as to which I should use?
Also, I'm going to list them on Craigslist and AutoTrader. Any other sites worth while?
Thanks


Check out ebay, it's a pretty good way to gauge market value.
 

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I've got to sell 2 used cars. I've been pricing them online with Kelly, NADA, and Edmonds and all the values differ WILDLY. As in several thousands between the sites. Any recommendation as to which I should use?

Also, I'm going to list them on Craigslist and AutoTrader. Any other sites worth while?

Thanks

When I went to buy a car on Autotrader, I graphed a hundred listings on a price/mileage plane and also showed the KBB et al values. With that I did a linear trendline so that I could price relative to the market with a good idea of the scatter. Iw ould do that if I was selling, too.
 

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When I went to buy a car on Autotrader, I graphed a hundred listings on a price/mileage plane and also showed the KBB et al values. With that I did a linear trendline so that I could price relative to the market with a good idea of the scatter. Iw ould do that if I was selling, too.


:laugh: You are such an engineer. (Said with approval).
 

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Check out ebay, it's a pretty good way to gauge market value.



When I went to buy a car on Autotrader, I graphed a hundred listings on a price/mileage plane and also showed the KBB et al values. With that I did a linear trendline so that I could price relative to the market with a good idea of the scatter. Iw ould do that if I was selling, too.


Just checked both sites and took your mapping advice Hunts. Not that many for sale on either site and even still the prices vary pretty heavily. I discounted $500 off the price I originally listed it for.

I'm listing it on eBay next and I might spring for an AutoTrader.com ad. Already had one call for a CL ad but the lady wanted to make payments.
 

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Yes, I'd go with ebay completed sale prices as an indicator of what people would pay for them in the real world, but use the other sources for an asking price and start from there.
 

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2011 Kia Optima LX (w/added leather :)):

700

700
 

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I saw a 997 cab yesterday in that Sport classic color on black Fuchs, I'm pretty sure it was a speedster.
 

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I just saw a jet fockin' black E38 750iL. :drool:
 
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yeah, to see nice cars you'll have to hang around the Yonge/Bloor area. yorkville and cumberland are two streets that are great for car spotting. but to be honest, the best cars I've seen were in the suburbs.

saw a Ghost and Continental GT on Bloor and Avenue intersection (also, new condo construction to be sold "in the mid 300's"?? isn't that cheap?). saw a Murcielago Spyder and DBS in the Niagara casinos though
 

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