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I was the victim of an inattentive driver in the way home Tuesday. Traffic came to a stop, and I stopped safely. It was somewhat sudden, so I was watching the car behind approaching at a worrying pace. They were able to stop safely, but just as I started to relax, the car behind piled into them. It was severe enough that my car was pushed into the car in front of me.

I am irritated in part because of the inconvenience, but mostly because we have been looking to move on to another car and were going to trade this in.
 

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All of them looks better than anything Tesla is making these days. In a sane world Rivian and Scout (VW) would eat their lunch.
 

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All of them looks better than anything Tesla is making these days. In a sane world Rivian and Scout (VW) would eat their lunch.
I have to think that the Supercharger network is the sole remaining selling point for the trust fund baby’s cars.
 

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The 80 has exceeded my expectations in every single way. The wife absolutely loves it and has evangelized two of her partners into also buying one. We should get a commission!

Haven’t really looked at the 70 other than to think that maybe the styling isn’t quite as successful? But I’d expect the quality and tech to be on the same level. In fact, the 70 has one notable advantage over the 80, in that it supports wireless CarPlay. There’s some chip set incompatibility issue with the 80 that can’t be fixed in software. Pretty much the sole annoyance so far.
Ffs.

I still plug my phone in to charge most of the time, but this is just nice because it starts up seemlessly almost every time. (There is a hiccup every now and then)
 

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Brake hold on EVs is handy. You're got an automatic that will definetely roll backwards (or forwards) as there's nothing when you're not hitting the accelerator.

Have Porsches become honest to goodness Veblen goods?
 

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Electric off-roading SUVs looking hot.

@UnFacconable



Didn’t realize they are doing a plug in hybrid too.

 

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So VW at some point purchased the International Harvester IP and just….sat on it till now? Talk about playing the long game!

I think it was purchased around 2021.

No one was doing anything with it so this feels like a smart play. Going for the retro bait while also providing hybrid/EV SUVs to the public that don’t look like a generic Tesla.
 

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Going for the retro bait while also providing hybrid/EV SUVs to the public that don’t look like a generic Tesla.
Exactly. And also the people who don't want Tesla because of politics, while (supposedly) sitting at a lower price point than Rivian's comparable offerings.

I really like the look of the SUV, along with the range and the towing capacity. Too bad they're not supposed to be available until 2027. Considering sending them the refundable $100 reservation fee for giggles.
 

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Exactly. And also the people who don't want Tesla because of politics, while (supposedly) sitting at a lower price point than Rivian's comparable offerings.

I really like the look of the SUV, along with the range and the towing capacity. Too bad they're not supposed to be available until 2027. Considering sending them the refundable $100 reservation fee for giggles.

I was going to complain about the lack of interior photos, but they are actually on the website. Looks good.

I’m not a fan of putting cash down on pre-orders for cars even if $100 isn’t bad.
 

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I think it was purchased around 2021.

No one was doing anything with it so this feels like a smart play. Going for the retro bait while also providing hybrid/EV SUVs to the public that don’t look like a generic Tesla.
I guess that makes sense. 5-ish years from ‘21 to ‘26 or whatever for a development lifecycle seems about right for a platform-shared vehicle. I wonder if they bought the brand name specifically with the vision to resurrect it as an EV that was already in development…

On the opposite side, one of the big OEM’s needs to buy Lucid. Their cars are probably the best EV out there short of Rimac, and they can never stay capitalized. Feels to me like a way to buy yourself into a market leadership position
 

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