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Looks good to me.
The missus said something similar.

I am a big fan of minivan utility and electric cars, so it's definitely up my street. I wish the windows in the sliding doors were larger, but not a dealbreaker.
 

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The missus said something similar.

I am a big fan of minivan utility and electric cars, so it's definitely up my street. I wish the windows in the sliding doors were larger, but not a dealbreaker.

My nitpick would be wanting the seating to be 2-2-3 rather than 2-3-2. Since those look like soccer formations, I’ll put it this way: sometimes you need a referee between the kids in the third row.

But our Sienna is now almost twelve years old. An upgrade next year would be perfect.
 

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In the short wheelbase version the only opening windows are in the front doors. I didn't see it mentioned in the review but if it's the same on this one that would also be a hard pass, despite it being a very cool van in many other ways.
 

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Why are there so many Subarus in Colorado? I was in Denver and Boulder a couple of years ago and it seemed like half the cars were Subarus.
 

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Why are there so many Subarus in Colorado? I was in Denver and Boulder a couple of years ago and it seemed like half the cars were Subarus.
They've become ubiquitous with the outdoorsy-type people who tend to live in Colorado (Vermont, as well). Rugged, reliable, technologically-sound. It's also becoming a kind of a status symbol for those who are of like mind.
 

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Why are there so many Subarus in Colorado? I was in Denver and Boulder a couple of years ago and it seemed like half the cars were Subarus.

In my opinion, it has been this way because Coloradans tend to value practicality over flashiness.

That said, the percentage of Subarus here in Boulder has definitely dropped over the past few years. I think many of the Scoobies are getting replaced by electric cars. I see a lot of Teslas, Rivians, etc these days.
 

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My nitpick would be wanting the seating to be 2-2-3 rather than 2-3-2. Since those look like soccer formations, I’ll put it this way: sometimes you need a referee between the kids in the third row.

But our Sienna is now almost twelve years old. An upgrade next year would be perfect.
Most of us aren't fielding a team of children... :)
In the short wheelbase version the only opening windows are in the front doors. I didn't see it mentioned in the review but if it's the same on this one that would also be a hard pass, despite it being a very cool van in many other ways.
Not mentioned in this video, but the LWB has sliding windows in the, uh, sliding doors.
 

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I thought Fueco had 3 kids so 5 total for the family. Then this need for a 7 seater confuses me because a middle seating style should work even for kids in the 3rd row. Are they back there with switch blades or something?
 

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I thought Fueco had 3 kids so 5 total for the family. Then this need for a 7 seater confuses me because a middle seating style should work even for kids in the 3rd row. Are they back there with switch blades or something?

I have four kids. My wife has five. 😜
 

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I thought Fueco had 3 kids so 5 total for the family. Then this need for a 7 seater confuses me because a middle seating style should work even for kids in the 3rd row. Are they back there with switch blades or something?
Is it more just the appeal of the 2-bucket-seat option in the middle?

Middle aisle rather than middle seats that have to be slid/folded forwards for rear access.

I do see that as a big advantage to minivan layouts--plus when you aren't travelling with a full load of kids, the back passengers get the "front seat" experience which differentiates it from normal 3-row SUVs. Nice for road trips, feels more open, has more storage possibilities with the rear seats stowed, etc.
 

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Is it more just the appeal of the 2-bucket-seat option in the middle?

Middle aisle rather than middle seats that have to be slid/folded forwards for rear access.

I do see that as a big advantage to minivan layouts--plus when you aren't travelling with a full load of kids, the back passengers get the "front seat" experience which differentiates it from normal 3-row SUVs. Nice for road trips, feels more open, has more storage possibilities with the rear seats stowed, etc.

Having the second row middle seat folded down or removed makes it actually possible to get into the back row with car seats installed. The oldest kid is close to getting into a booster seat, which will make things easier.
 

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