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Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. impolyt_one

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    575M vs. what, on the used market? There doesn't seem to be good competition for that one. The Astons are all a lot more expensive. The Continental GT is around the same price used but it'd be a ragged early-run car, and is also ugly. There are Porsches there at the same price point, but not the good ones, and Porsches aren't good one to one substitutes for real supercars.
     
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    How much are they going for in Japan? 575M around here is about $110k-$130k with less than 15k miles.
     
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    So can we expect to see a dark green 575 soon?
     
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    Woah, really? The 550/575 is probably my favorite modern ferrari. Just love how clean it looks
     
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    oh wow, much less in Japan, that makes it a rare value case then. They are like 70-80K here, about the same as a new 523i or a used 997.1. For reference, a 360 of the same age is about 90, a 430 is about 140, a Vanquish is about 120, a DB9 about 120, a V8 Vantage about 90, a 612 Scag is about 100, a Continental GT is 70-80K for an early model. The market here is very keen on cachet and the 575M doesn't have much anymore. I can't seem to find anything as reliable/new/nice as a 575M for the same price, after thinking about it. I like the MR V8 cars too, but I wouldn't kick the Maranello out of bed.

    From what I have read, the 575M is very easy to take care of being that services are reasonable (physically) to do, and the prices of parts are as you would expect. The only issues I've read of are very minor considering that it's a Ferrari. I saw two today running hard in the rain in the span of an hour....
     
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    I wish, I was at that dealer looking at AMG's last week and they had a Verde Inglese F355 Berlinetta on the floor, absolutely mint; you don't see many green Ferraris out there but it suits them. The three cheapest 575M's on the market in Japan right now are champagne gold for like 60k, and two fly yellow cars around 70. Grigio cars, blacks, and TDF Blu are around 80 and up, but not much higher than that. mileage is all well under 10k km's for most of them.
     
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    Is the Maranello really a modern Ferrari though? It is mechanically, but looks-wise it's rather tame, especially if you consider the 430, the 599, the Italia; even the 612 and California are of a newer design language. The 575M is basically a mid 2000's car, but looks like a mid-90's model, that is what I was referring to...
     
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    Price isn't too far off unless the $70k-$80k price has little mileage. Here you can get it here for around the same price if you're willing to have around ~30k or more miles on the car and for a Ferrari, that might as well be 100k miles. A 550 is slightly cheaper if you don't mind that.

    To be honest, for $70k-$80k, I'd probably get a 360 Modena, I just like how it looks more and I'd be plenty happy with it's V8. Not sure how reliable it is though.

    For around $120k-$130k, definitely go for an F430. If it were my choice, I'd just buy a new Vantage V8 for this price. Not a Ferrari but I'd be very happy with it and I prefer my toys new. :embar:

    A Vanquish is much cheaper here though, ~$80k-$90k, DB9 is ~$70k-$80k. A 2005-2007 Continental GT is ~$80-$90k but it really depends on the cars mileage. Lots of Continental GT are sold with high mileage around here, not the case with Ferraris, Lambos and Astons. You can probably find an 05 $65k Continental GT with 40k-50k miles.
     
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    Agreed, it looks dated by Ferrari standards. It's no Testarossa old but doesn't look modern anymore. The 360 Modena looks much more modern even though it is older than the 575M, then again the 575M is based on the 550. They really should have updated the look more from the 550.
     
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    Yeah, 550's are out because they're only 6 speed and I'd want an F1 car... they also have a few nagging issues that are mostly remedied in the 575M, and the evo cars are just generally better. A 360 is the only other real contender at that price, and a 430 is what I'd like, but too expensive for me, almost double what the 575M costs, it's not a small increment to jump up. The 612 might be possible but it's not enticing. Astons are all to expensive and not good enough for that kind of money. Porsches mostly bore me and I see them all day, good utility value here but nothing special for the money. I don't know if the 430 will ever come down significantly either, more likely I'll someday get to an income level and just skip over the 430 and be able to look at 458's.

    Most cars are incredibly low mileage here by US standards (used cars are between 1500-15K miles for almost anything), but even though a km is less than half a mile, I am just considering a Tokyo km to be like a California mile when it comes to odometer and maintenance concerns.
     
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    why no to the 360?
     
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    Isn't the 612 more of a GT car with 4-seats (usable 4-seats that is) or am I thinking of another Ferrari?

    I think the F430 will go down in price, I was looking at it a year or two ago and most were going for ~$140k-$150k and a month or so ago some were hovering around $125k-$130k. I could imagine it hitting around ~$100k in another year or two. So if you can increase your income level to around that price-point, then you could have an F430 by then.

    Going for a 458 is a huge leap, a used one is still double the price of the F430 and a 2011 still reaches well over $300k.
     
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    Yah, why no 360?

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    I don't know exactly, because I like the 360 on its own, I feel it might be a bit too well-liked and overpriced in the market here by about 10-20K. I feel most drawn to the F430, but I can't afford one. I've loved the 430 since it came out when I was just a dreaming college student. Now I am a dreaming 30 year old, but I've got three companies in Japan and I've got means to buy one finally. I feel like even if I got a 360 at a good price, I'd still be thinking about the 430... whereas if I got one of the FR V12 cars, my interests might change a bit, it seems like a good distraction. It's more car, a bit easier to live with in dimensions since it's closer to a real car. The 575M seems really easy to own, almost as easy to have around as a Porsche, and they're about the same price - and I know which I'd pick between the two. At this level I'm trying to make it about 'a sports car' rather than obsessing about the cachet. I can't afford current model-level cachet unless it's a 523i or an E300 :eek:

    My wife has had a 360 before already, and some of my neighbors have the rest of the cars I've mentioned; no Maranellos parked around here though. I don't think that's a big consideration but everybody seems to have nice cars, albeit different ones from their neighbors.
     
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    The 550/575 has a usable trunk.


    3 companies, what's the 3'rd one if you don't mind telling.
     
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