Cars We Drive!

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. Sir F

    Sir F Senior member

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    Yesterday I was testdriving Porsche GT3 RS, year 2011. God damn a whole new world!
     
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    idfnl Senior member

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    Wow, now that is a monster.
     
  3. Sir F

    Sir F Senior member

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    It really is. So much diffrent from the rest of porsches out there as I have 997 turbo I felt a big diffrence. I hate my car now :p
     
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    whiteslashasian Senior member

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    A friend of mine has a 997 GT3 as his weekend/track car; I want to drive it so badly....

    The latest in a long line of cars including an e46 M3, 355 and an Elise as weekend cars.

    His daily driver is a B7 RS4.
     
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  5. Sir F

    Sir F Senior member

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    That's nice! the rs4 is a fav here too!
     
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    lol I know exactly how you feel. I had a deposit on a 997 turbo like yours when I test drove the gt3 just for fun. I'm glad the dealership was very cool about returning my deposit :D
     
  7. Arthur PE

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    aero means little til 100 mph
    you ignore my examples because they shoot holes through your non-point
    mine are invalid but you compare a diesel to a gasoline vehicle, lol

    they advertise HP for the uneducated, bigger is better stuff, in europe torque band is what counts. elasticity/flexability
    the new M5 only 8% more HP, but 40% more torque...seems like they consider torque more important

    torque at the crank and gearing tells you EVERYTHING about the motive thrust
    HP and gearing tell you nothing (you need rpm/speed/etc., then you can calculate torque and motive thrust)
    stick with civil engineering, then again, physics is required there also, lol
     
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    idfnl Senior member

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    While aero off the line is meaningless, its effects are certainly present much earlier than 100 mph. In fact aero plays at even 30 mph.

    I agree way too much emphasis is placed on HP (the engines ability to maintain RPM). Torque (the engine's ability to accelerate) is much more valuable for daily drivers.
     
  9. Kai

    Kai Senior member

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    And track cars.
     
  10. Trompe le Monde

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    as a single numerical figure, peak hp is a better indicator of performance than peak torque.

    take your schoolyard slapfight to PMs
     
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    idfnl Senior member

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    They both matter. A car with lots of HP may reach a great top speed but without any torque it will take a month to get there, so I dont really agree one is more important than the other.

    Again, for a daily driver I'd rather have big torque than HP. My car is that way and its such a pleasure to be at 1200 rpm doing 50 and give it some beans and instantly feel the push. No pleasure in that Honda Civic automatic pause then downshift and then hear that waaaaaaaaaaaa sound to get past that camper van.
     
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    both measurements matter, as they are intrinsically linked. (and of course peak torque figure hints at the driveability or tractability....)
    but as a single numerical figure...
     
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    The next person to comment on this Torque vs Horsepower debate deserves to be ground down and fed directly into an engine. Leave it the fuck alone. Your ePenises are gaying up this manly thread.
     
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    This is very important to you.
     
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    FTR, kookz is manlier than every homo in this thread.
     

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