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Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. Blackhood

    Blackhood Senior member

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    I liked it actually. A baby rangey for the city folk.

    Not my cup of tea; an off-road vehicle should go to hell and back. A luxury cruiser should over 700 miles in a day without blinking. The Evoque does neither, but its not a bad car for those who like it.
     


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    jet Persian Bro

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    This, I would only buy the car for the engine and nothing else since it's pretty ugly, double ugly with m6 wheels.
     


  3. RFX45

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    Have you driven it?


    Is it really overpriced? Isn't it's competitor the GLK, X3, Q5, RX, etc...? To be honest, I'd rather pay more and take the Evoque over any of those base on looks alone or a Cayenne for driving experience. I wonder when the smaller version of the Cayennes going to come out?
     


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    ^^^I don't like any of those mini-SUVs. But then again, I'm not much of a SUV guy.
     


  5. Blackhood

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    Not driven, I just took a brief look around at the launch event. Our local dealership happens to be attached to my Flying club, so I had a peek before take off.

    Here it's about £30k which is basically a Q5- Tuareg-X3 competitor. To my mind they each have their own buyers and brand alliances.

    Interior looked very solid and naturally the show model was high-spec. Looked like a very solid soft-roader with quirky styling. To my mind the distinctiveness is the key in this market sector. Prowess seems to come from your friends noticing you have the "new audi" or "new Range Rover", not that you have a bajillion ft/lbs or 35bhp.

    In hindsight it probably wasn't an accident that the launch event took place where a large number of middle aged guy fly their planes and the wives sit around in the bar for a few hours. It's a very wife-y car.
     


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    RFX45 Senior member

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    Well I was more curious how it can't go off-road and can't be a luxury cruiser, I wanted to know if you knew first hand because I'm wondering if this one will be as confused as the X6.
     
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  7. Find Finn

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    I would personally rather want a luxury estate, as you get more car for your money and I don't need the extra right height.



    Top Gear tested one in Nevada and it seemed to cope very well and I would be surprised if the 4*4 version couldn't out perform most of those mini suv/sav things.

    The X6 is such a rubbish car and it looks like it was drawn 5 minutes before quitting time on a Friday.

    [VIDEO][/VIDEO]
     
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  8. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    I'm not a big fan of luxury estates, it's just a fancy way of saying station wagon. From watching TG UK, it seems like estates just has a different connotation in Europe while in the US it's a soccer mom car or just a big family overhauling car. Either way, I just never seen one that I truly like outside of the CTS-V wagon. I like hatchbacks but station wagons just look terrible to me.
     


  9. Find Finn

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    ^yeah it's just easier than saying 5 series etc. touring and having a SUV in Europe is just like saying I like getting my car resprayed, as they get keyed like mad.

    Also most of the "big" suv's like the X5 has a smaller boots, than the current E class estate, so they do the same thing and hold the same amount of luggage and they drive better, so I can't see why you would get a SUV over an estate, unless you need to drag something or need the clearance.

    I would say there's a lot of nice big estates out there, the E Class and 5 series are very good looking.
     
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  10. Blackhood

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    It certainly has the tech and the pedigree to go off-road, but one has to ask when it will be used? Unless you have a farmhouse in the black-country that you use at weekends, you're not really going to be taking your air-conditioned, leather clad SUV with TV's and SatNav on a serious treck into teh desert or up a mountain.

    I would guess that its the best "I honestly could go off road, but that would make me late for my latte" car at that price point. It does however feel a lot lower than some SUVs, so the chance that you'll roll it over in a high-speed collision should be lower than an X5 for example.
     


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    The Evoque seems the same size as a GLK, RX and X3 so it shouldn't really be strictly an off road vehicle and those other CUV (are these considered a cross-over?) certainly aren't off road vehicles either but they sure sell well. The RX is Lexus' big seller for sure. I mean lets be honest, how many of these buyers go off road, it's having the capability to do so that counts.

    I go camping once or twice a year and while it isn't a hardcore go in the woods and kill what you eat kind of adventure, it does involve going up hills and rocky/muddy terrain and hauling some gear. If the RX, GLK and X3 can handle that (I know they can since I just borrow my friends highlander when I go camping) then the Evoque seems like it should be capable too.

    And for those daily driving or as a grocery-getter or just long drives like if I were going to Vegas, I can see it a good comfortable yet luxurious ride. Would I rather be in an S550? Sure but when speaking of CUVs the Evoque seems like a pretty good choice if you can afford to pay a bit more over the others.


    I don't want to use TG UK as a valid source for these discussions but they do continually rave about Range Rovers as their camera vehicle when filming and that it can handle almost any terrain thrown at it.
     


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    I think it's because they can and have been the benchmark for high end 4*4's for years and years (even though it has had "some" reliability issues), also it has the biggest boot.
     


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    just put the summers on

    winters:eek:em wheels Conti DWS 255/35/19 XL 96Y (all season, I know the joke 'no season' but we had 4 days of snow with the roads cleared by 7 AM, no issues, and I know snow, lived in AK for 10 years)
    et was 21 (29 + 8 mm spacer)

    summers:rotoform mia's 19 x 10 (et 35 + 8mm ~ 27 mm effective) Conti 265/35/19 XL 98Y, they are about 10 mm wider, 6 on the inside and 4 on the out, no rubbing
    I adjust pressures for the higher load rating, there is a table load vs pressure vs rating, Audi spec for the 96 rating ~ 41/41 max, 98 equivilent is 39/39, I run 38/37 which is 75% max load
    I generally don't like aftermarket wheels but with Audi centercaps and the design they look like oem, same color in fact
    (bought them because good deal and my oems got warped in a pothole so had them repaired for winter use)
    they are 0.3" taller (1% or so, so speedo error goes from 4% high to 3%)
    the fenders wells look stuffed

    aluminum floor jack, corded impact wrench and torque wrench, but the best tool cost $10, a threaded rod to hang the wheel on while installing
    left the plastic lug bolt caps off, torqued to 88 lb ft, will drive for a day or two, torque to 90 lb ft and then snap them on

    can't wait to feel the grip
     
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    finally got it done - i've had the parts for three weeks but various travel schedules and daily life bullshit have gotten in the way of the install.

    [​IMG]
     


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    It's yours? Its a m5 right?
     


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