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That's true, but at least I can figure out why people find 100dB street cars obnoxious.
Let me parse this for you.

Porsche is predominantly famous for its sports cars. Sports cars are loud. That’s why it’s ironic for customers at a Porsche dealership to complain about loud sports cars.

That has nothing to do with whether there are good reasons to buy a Porsche SUV.
 

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I was looking into buying another one just in case mine wears out and I was floored with how expensive they are on eBay. Even the cheap brands are approaching 4 bills. Luckily I still have a practically brand new Mitsubishi player and it's nice knowing I can sell it if I ever need extra funds. Right now it's worth about $500 in its condition which is just crazy I think. No Fast & Furious though, but I do have a pristine copy of Gone in 60 Seconds.
 

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Porsche is predominantly famous for its sports cars. Sports cars are loud. That’s why it’s ironic for customers at a Porsche dealership to complain about loud sports cars.
But they weren't famous for loud cars...they were famous for sports car that you could daily drive. Porsches being very loud, is something of the last 10-15 years. If you drive an air cooled 911 or 930, or a 928 or 944 Turbo S, none of those were particularly loud cars. People daily drove those Porsches. The air cooled 911s have a distinctive engine sound...but they were not incredibly loud. And back then it wasn't purely about being loud, it was about the sounds the cars made. Ferraris and Lamborghinis were loud, but not 100 db, and it was more the sound track they provide. I know plenty of guys with nice sports cars, plenty are loud, but I don't know any that daily drive really loud cars...they all daily something else.
 

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But they weren't famous for loud cars...they were famous for sports car that you could daily drive. Porsches being very loud, is something of the last 10-15 years. If you drive an air cooled 911 or 930, or a 928 or 944 Turbo S, none of those were particularly loud cars. People daily drove those Porsches. The air cooled 911s have a distinctive engine sound...but they were not incredibly loud. And back then it wasn't purely about being loud, it was about the sounds the cars made. Ferraris and Lamborghinis were loud, but not 100 db, and it was more the sound track they provide. I know plenty of guys with nice sports cars, plenty are loud, but I don't know any that daily drive really loud cars...they all daily something else.
Still one of my favorite Porsche driving videos and the sound is perfect, any louder and it would be too much for me.

 

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This is coming from someone who once wanted one of the loudest aftermarket exhausts on the market; the Tomei Expreme Ti. However emotions change when one has time to reflect and I am choosing this in its place. Hoping to place my order real soon, been talking to dealers recently.

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But they weren't famous for loud cars...they were famous for sports car that you could daily drive. Porsches being very loud, is something of the last 10-15 years. If you drive an air cooled 911 or 930, or a 928 or 944 Turbo S, none of those were particularly loud cars. People daily drove those Porsches. The air cooled 911s have a distinctive engine sound...but they were not incredibly loud. And back then it wasn't purely about being loud, it was about the sounds the cars made. Ferraris and Lamborghinis were loud, but not 100 db, and it was more the sound track they provide. I know plenty of guys with nice sports cars, plenty are loud, but I don't know any that daily drive really loud cars...they all daily something else.
I think this is overly reductive on several fronts.

Yes, Porsche is known for daily-drivable sports cars. However, they are still loud compared to non-sports cars—say, a family sedan or an SUV.

Further, the air-cooled cars make all sorts of raspy, raucous noises that are muted in the water-cooled ones. Which is “louder”? Which is more livable day to day? Debatable.

Also, it depends on exactly which air-cooled Porsche you’re talking about. A 2.7 RS is pretty damned loud! And it is much less usable as a daily driver than a modern Porsche GT car. Generally, the motorsport models—regardless of era—are louder and less filtered.

Finally, don’t mistake my euphemistic tone with literally saying loud is better for the sake of being loud. Obviously, it’s the mechanical quality of the sound that matters. Volume amplifies the good and bad. On that note, I disagree that vintage necessarily sounds better than modern. No vintage, air-cooled engine spins to 9,000 rpm.

Regardless of era, the turbo cars don’t sound particularly interesting.
 
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