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patrick_b

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If you’re cool with possibly writing off the entire car, then don’t get track insurance. If you push yourself or explore your limits at all on the track, you’re going to have some offs. And even if you take it easy, others will be going balls out. And those incidents will probably need insurance.

that said, in my observation, serious crashes are pretty rare (spins are very common but as long as there are runoffs and no aggressive bunching no metal gets bent). So that’s why some people just roll the dice, I guess
Makes sense. I just look at $150 + fees are my expenses for the day.

Enter at your own risk.

If you crash into someone else's car, your character is going to be tested real quick. Not to sound like a douche, but I prefer to avoid track days filled with kids and their Civics, because the reality is the majority of them will have no means to make me whole, should they cause a wreck and damage my car.

This is why I am very selective about the track day organizers I will run with, as well as why I will always run with the advanced group (despite my skill level placing me in the higher end of intermediate). The worst thing you can ever do is run in a beginner group, because the people in those groups are more likely to do stupid shit due to their inexperience/lack of situational awareness.

At the end of the day, there's no prize for first place and the guys I usually go with don't even care to time their laps because once you start chasing lap times, that's when you start to over drive and mistakes can and will happen.
You have to have to start somewhere :). To be honest, it's intimidating doing something like this for the first time (especially at my age). The event I did early this month was a "Gray Day". All participants were 50+ (I just made the cut). It was a blast. Very welcoming to a new guy like me. I was one of a few with little or no experience but I got some great instruction, really enjoyed pushing my car and met a nice bunch of guys.

I never felt pressured to exceed my ability nor did I feel like I was ruining someone else's time. That was my biggest fear going in to this...that and looking stupid. After participating I wish I'd done it sooner.
 

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Wagon life is best life.

maybe I should look for one
 

DubbyThaFerrgamoCZAR

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Have we talked about this yet?


 

Thrift Vader

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Not awful. But the side windows seem small.
 

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Have we talked about this yet?


So many screens. It’s looks nice on the inside but there’s something about the exterior I don’t like. Some proportions are off, maybe the windows?

Looks a lot like a Lincoln model on the outside
 

HRoi

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I mean no one thought it would have wood paneling or anything like that, but this still isn’t a wagoneer, this is a FCA Escalade.

interior is nice although I bet those chrome accents look cheap in person
 

Piobaire

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Highly approve of the McIntosh. If it's not Scottish, it's crap!!
 

DubbyThaFerrgamoCZAR

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My only thing is we're probably not gonna see that many people throw down 100k for a Jeep.
 

Piobaire

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Worse than just "Jeep," a Chrysler product. Wait for two years post introduction and they'll be in the used market for 50k.
 

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Worse than just "Jeep," a Chrysler product. Wait for two years post introduction and they'll be in the used market for 50k.
Does your hate on Jeep stem from them and other American car brands kicking German ass in WWII, because if so I totally get it. It’s like a rival thing; Rangers/Devils, Yankees/Red Sox, Giants/Cowboys, Ford/Ferrari

Personally I hate the new design and could care less if it fails. It’s just another fine example of failed reboots. Like the NSX or the Thunderbird. Even if the new “Supra” is currently doing well sales wise, it’s almost an insult calling it one based on the original. Let Classics live in the past, don’t bring them back only to taint their good name; and yes that even includes you Ferrari (GTO). Occasionally it does work though, and I am excited to see Ford’s success with the Bronco like they have successfully implemented on the Mustang continuously.
 

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