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I’m not putting à European style front plate on my car or any front plate for that matter.
We have to in NY and they’re pretty obnoxious about it in my area. Mine is a hideaway and the drill holes can’t be found unless you feel around under the lower spoiler. It’s not visible.
 

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30 seconds in. . it's all the car. and that dent above the rear wheel arch towards the door stands out. watch the whole vid for the whole car.

It's a 9/10 late 70's Toyota.
 

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Re: Electrics v Hydrogen.
Over here, a lot of effort is being put into Hydrogen as the next fuel for the trucks and buses. As it's a lot more feasible than current battery tec.
It's hard to remember the relationships involved. But i think it's -
"Toyota owns Hino trucks. and is working on the Hydrogen tec. Hitatchi and Toshiba are involved with the battery and electrical tec."
As systems get more refined and compact, they can be offered in more mainstream car models. - test it large first.
There is plenty of room in a truck chassis, And removing the powertrain to start again will allow for a possible weight reduction.

In the case of refrigerated trucks, the electricity generated by the drive train could also power the refrigeration system.
Making it a seamless vehicle for the foods industry. Regular trucks would also benefit, as the add-ons can be not added. easy.

This is their game plan. I think it's a pretty good one. For supplying the Hydrogen?
Just like LPG. Setting up the infrastructure would not be hard. and from what i understand, hydrogen stops are being built along Japan's highways in preparation for the new truck releases. Filling time is much faster than charging a battery.

Nissan is doing more EV's. They just released a new SUV. which looks pretty good.
Yeah but any infrastructure setup in Japan cannot model in the US. That would be like championing a hydrogen network completion in the state of California. Too bad 90% of the rest of the country has zero access.
 

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Well, you get Propane, LPG (same?) and Gasoline by truck. What's the difference?
1 Truck making a stop could power 10?
With a low environmental impact?

Now amplify it by stops. You could reel in the snowball to keep things steady.
Tesla aimed small fish. For name recognition.
yer, space? -late to the party.
 

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Infrastructure, production and distribution. Its not just the network and having truck stops but getting it there and the facilities. Not every truck stop here has LP, let alone another fuel type. I would guess it would be 10-15 years to get hydrogen for trucks if the technology is proven feasible and cost effective.

I’ve looked at Tesla. You know what stops me? There are only 7 superchargers in my state. Not very convenient. But everyone champions the network they have setup. Its been 8 years since they started the network.
 

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But you see what i'm saying. trucking is a prime development field.

It might seem probing when i ask about how Tesla's are powered.

We are nuclear powered,backed by green energy. I see a clean trucking industry. trickled down to a clean commuter industry.
This isn't "Drunk think". You know me better.

Tesla is blasting dated tec. in haste.
Collecting dated tec. making moves with it. The 90's does a slow clap. . .
 

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I don't think Tesla has a sustainable advantage. To JC's point, there are plenty of areas where the supercharger network is basically non-existent. I've seen gas stations starting to add electric chargers around the area. It will continue to take time, but gas stations and other travel related organizations will want to stay relevant, so they'll adapt and continue to add capacity.

To add, I don't see hydrogen taking off. Maybe this generation doesn't remember the Hindenburg, but it has a network/infrastructure problem that is more challenging than electric.
 

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We are comparing "Gas" Cars to "solar cars".
Regardless of nuke or wind,
It is tricky.

No magic, my guess is hydrogen will win. as a hybrid. with whatever.
 

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