Cars We Drive!

[HRoi]

I wasn't suggesting that the 911 is the only car one can spin or that it was the worst handling car. Older 911s are blast to drive. However, the older models are a bit more tail happy one has to be a bit more cautious and learn the car's (and one's own) limits slowly. My dad went from a front engine 1982 BMW 633CSi with about 178 hp to a rear engine 3.2 Carrera with 200 hp...not a huge power difference but very different driving dynamics. I think the Carrera was the only car he ever spun with lift-off oversteer.

As for the "Widowmaker" nickname, it specifically applied to the 930 Turbo. The 930 had what many called a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde personality. 930s felt sedate and almost sluggish off boost compared to the n/a 911. They had serious turbo lag, and then suddenly the boost would kick in, catch people buy surprise, they would "lift off" and go flying off the road. In the late 70's early 80's there were a few wrongful death lawsuits against Porsche and the distributor Porsche + Audi relating to 930s. In California there was a $2.5 Million verdict against Porsche & Porsche +Audi for an accident involving a 930 in which the driver lost control and someone's husband (passenger) was killed. There was another involving a 930 and oversteer resulting in the car hitting a telephone pole and again killing someone's husband. It settled for an undisclosed amount. Hence, that's where the "Widowmaker" name came from. Aside from emissions issues, the law suits were one of the reason that Porsche pulled the 930 from the US market from 1980-1985. In 86, it returned to the US market with a bit more horsepower, but the boost and the way it kicked in were tamed a bit.

I wasn’t suggesting that any of your post was wrong. I agreed with it. I merely wanted to build upon it to say that 911’s are fine if driven properly and with the right knowledge and experience. Which is not really much different from the right knowledge and experience to drive any RWD car.

 

[clee1982]

regarding to my prior angle comment, this make it look better..

 

[TheFoo]

It’s a better picture, yes. But car is just as ugly.

 

[Dino944]

regarding to my prior angle comment, this make it look better..

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Might look even better if a drone photographed it from 150 feet above or higher

 

[OtterMeanGreen]

This would’ve been the best car I’ve seen down here yet, but the stupid paint job and tacky chrome exhaust tips just ruin it for me.

 

[clee1982]

that color somehow would look better on a Lambo than on a Ferrari

 

[OtterMeanGreen]

that color somehow would look better on a Lambo than on a Ferrari

Or a McLaren, Shelby, Viper, Porsche, Lotus...anything but a Ferrari.

 

[HRoi]

i think this is some kind of record...my first car parts purchase in like, a year? Whew.

not sure if it counts as a mod because mods are supposed to make your car perform better...this is going on a GT4 that previously had Sport Cup 2’s. Sadly, my wife is forcing me to go to PS4S because she read that the PSC2 are ****** in the wet (they are, but I’m surprised she made it her business).

 

[Dino944]

i think this is some kind of record...my first car parts purchase in like, a year? Whew.

not sure if it counts as a mod because mods are supposed to make your car perform better...this is going on a GT4 that previously had Sport Cup 2’s. Sadly, my wife is forcing me to go to PS4S because she read that the PSC2 are ****** in the wet (they are, but I’m surprised she made it her business).

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Still a great tire, especially if you drive it mostly on the road rather than the track. Several friends have put them on their Porsches in the last year or so and all have said great things about them. I just put them on my Cayman S a few weeks ago. I haven't done a lot of driving on them, but I like them a lot better than the Pirellis and Goodyears that Porsche put on many of these cars when they were new.

 

[brokencycle]

i think this is some kind of record...my first car parts purchase in like, a year? Whew.

not sure if it counts as a mod because mods are supposed to make your car perform better...this is going on a GT4 that previously had Sport Cup 2’s. Sadly, my wife is forcing me to go to PS4S because she read that the PSC2 are ****** in the wet (they are, but I’m surprised she made it her business).

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Just tell her you got the 4S.

 

[bawlin]

I had PS4S on my GT3, and even tracked them a few times. Great tires.

I, too, went parts shopping today. Ordered a cat bypass and g-pipe from FVD the other day but found someone local selling a g-pipe and cat bypass w/ resonator (a $900 part) this morning for $350 (and even delivered it to my front door).

Also ordered some Continental Extreme Contact Sport tires for the Cup wheels (which should be here Friday; car gets here this weekend).

Now to sort out the suspension...

 

[UnFacconable]

It’s a better picture, yes. But car is just as ugly.

Looks like a Mustang that someone photoshopped with a caricaturized double kidney grill.

On the other hand, perhaps the first car ever that looks more attractive with a front license plate.

 

[clee1982]

front license plate holder would be a proper mod now

 

[Omega Male]

What do we think about a basically new 2019 AMG GT63 4-door (<500 miles) at $30K off sticker? Alternative is a 2018 Panamera Turbo with 8,000 miles for $25K less. Similar options. Trade quotes on the Douchemobile were within $1500 of each other, so not super material.

 

[Thrift Vader]

AMG GT looks way nicer.

Question is, would you rather have the car you want, or the difference in cash in your wallet?