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I received my #4 MTO. the color is not similar to other #4s - much darker and flatter. can people post photos of their #4 MTOs for purposes of color comparison?

the shoes arrived with so many defects, these do not qualify as seconds.

not sure how Carmina is sending out all these defective MTOs. seems their internal quality control for MTOs is super low / non-existent
 

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I received my #4 MTO. the color is not similar to other #4s - much darker and flatter. can people post photos of their #4 MTOs for purposes of color comparison?

the shoes arrived with so many defects, these do not qualify as seconds.

not sure how Carmina is sending out all these defective MTOs. seems their internal quality control for MTOs is super low / non-existent
My exp also.
 

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Another messy order sent by Carmina. Ordered a pair of Chelsea boots with the Black Friday deal with shoe trees. Asked for another size shoe trees a couple weeks later. Received the order with no belt, no shoe trees, wrong size shoes and after 80 days.

Do they use a different kind of leather for their Chelsea boots? The leather on this pair seemed a lot softer and flexible than the leather on my oxfords. Both suppose to be black boxcalf

What kind of lining did you choose? Kid lining is softer than calf lining.
 

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I received my #4 MTO. the color is not similar to other #4s - much darker and flatter. can people post photos of their #4 MTOs for purposes of color comparison?

the shoes arrived with so many defects, these do not qualify as seconds.

not sure how Carmina is sending out all these defective MTOs. seems their internal quality control for MTOs is super low / non-existent
Here’s a pair I got.
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pictures of the issues you have would be helpful.
 

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Sorry to hear that. My pair was very well made. Lucky I suppose.
 

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I received my #4 MTO. the color is not similar to other #4s - much darker and flatter. can people post photos of their #4 MTOs for purposes of color comparison?

the shoes arrived with so many defects, these do not qualify as seconds.

not sure how Carmina is sending out all these defective MTOs. seems their internal quality control for MTOs is super low / non-existent
Most of my orders have been fine, but I received my Kirby MTO shoes this week after sending them in for a repair or remake back in late October. I was extremely disappointed to see that literally nothing was done to the boots. Same issues with zero communication during the 4 months. One thing did change, the box came back more beat up than before lol.

Next time just tell me nothing will be done and I can avoid this headache. Waiting on a response from the NYC store on how to proceed. At this point I'll take a discount just to be done with it.

Again, overall I've been happy with my Carmina purchases but this experience has been very negative.
 

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Gents, if anyone would like a pair of Carmina chelseas in chocolate sude, size 10.5, Forest last. PM me, I'll send it for $175 shipped. Worn a few times but in excellent condition, come with box and shoe bags.
 

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looks nice. all the color 4s all look different in color - zero consistency here. weird.
Hate to sound cliche but if you’re looking for consistency, Shell is anything but consistent. Every batch, every shoe is going to vary in color. The table color may be similar, but as soon as it’s cut into a pattern, and stitch into an upper, that table color no longer matter. Shell looks different from every angle that you look at it. Pics of what you’re referring to with your pair would be immensely helpful. ??
 

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Hate to sound cliche but if you’re looking for consistency, Shell is anything but consistent. Every batch, every shoe is going to vary in color. The table color may be similar, but as soon as it’s cut into a pattern, and stitch into an upper, that table color no longer matter. Shell looks different from every angle that you look at it. Pics of what you’re referring to with your pair would be immensely helpful. ??

thank you for your feedback.

as someone who owns >25 pairs of shell, I do know what are below seconds and what is acceptable. I also know that color 4 has a certain look. if it doesn't, it's not color 4, but some other shade of shell. these that I received are not in the color table.

examples of color 4:


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Alden-Color-4-Shell-Cordovan-CT-Boot-8.jpg


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Alden-Color-4-WT-Boots-5.jpg


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what I received, below in daylight. several issues, but main is this crease - looks like a reflection, but it is not. it is as if the maker used a piece of shell that was firmly folded with a bend in it... also, this is not what I expect for color 4. also, this bend will not disappear with normal wear (unfortunately) and it is on the main part of the shoe.

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thank you for your feedback.

as someone who owns >25 pairs of shell, I do know what are below seconds and what is acceptable. I also know that color 4 has a certain look. if it doesn't, it's not color 4, but some other shade of shell. these that I received are not in the color table.

examples of color 4:


4x4-2.jpg


Alden-Color-4-Shell-Cordovan-CT-Boot-8.jpg


yySk5qM.jpg


Alden-Color-4-WT-Boots-5.jpg


1000


what I received, below in daylight. several issues, but main is this crease - looks like a reflection, but it is not. it is as if the maker used a piece of shell that was firmly folded with a bend in it... also, this is not what I expect for color 4. also, this bend will not disappear with normal wear (unfortunately) and it is on the main part of the shoe.

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That's brown. Not color 4.
 

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