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Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by w.o.e.is.me., May 3, 2011.

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    It was a single MTO so no dice on the return. I actually messed up and meant to order Llubi/Detroit but somehow apparently went with rain..won't make that mistake again.
     


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    I thought the fit of the inca last supposed to be comparable to the rain last. While the rain last is a great fit for me in size 8 with a very small V shape the inca last is tight in the instep for me.

    Judging the pictures, will this stretch enough to be acceptable or is the fit just not a match for me?

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    IMO being a person with a high instep I think this will work out for you. Now you did not lace the shoes so hard to tell what it looks like when the laces are tied but I still think you will be ok. On this topic in general you will find varied opinions some say what you have is just not acceptable. But I have been around the world to many shoe shops and seems most all think this is acceptable. In the end it really comes down to is it acceptable to you?

    Also think about this if you have a brand new shoe and the gap is closed there really is no way the shoe can shape to your foot since the shoe is kinda too big already. As it has been explained to me the reason you have the shoe tongue is so that you can have some gap and the shoe still has a good look.

    I have been on several threads where this becomes a hot topic like I said in the end it's up to you.

    Also not for nothing, but those socks look awful thick for dress shoes.
     


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    While it is true that a lot of people would consider it acceptable, we all know it’s not ideal. Dress shoes are expensive. If you don’t really get what you really want for what you paid for, why bother? Just because it’s not among the most expensive shoes?

    I too have very high instep. In fact so high that even rain lasted shoes would look like that on my feet(probably even worse). I know derby or Blucher probably would be a better fit, yet I still love the aesthetics of an Oxford. That’s the reason why I went for MTO.

    That said, I do agree you that ultimately it’s the buyers’ decision.
     


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    I have both but the instep in the Inca it's much more lower. I have a lower instep and Inca fits me better than Rain. Plus the almond shaped toe feels better IMO.

    I think that if you don't feel uncomfortable and it's okay with you, I would keep them.
     


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    I would return no question.
     


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    Vinsep, post: 9086201, member: 272720"]While it is true that a lot of people would consider it acceptable, we all know it’s not ideal. Dress shoes are expensive. If you don’t really get what you really want for what you paid for, why bother? Just because it’s not among the most expensive shoes?

    I like the way you said it "it's not ideal" but yes generally acceptable. True if you are paying full price it's better to get what you paid for agreed. As a side note sometimes when I am not sure I just pick up a outlet pair or a discounted pair that way if the fit is not ideal I don't feel so bad. Example I grabbed those Baltimore Boots on the Detroit last from the outlet when I see the restock. I have no ideal how they will fit me I am hoping with the high instep they will be ok but I am taking a chance as I have no other Detroit last in my collection. If the fit is not what I want I will put them up for sale and lesson learned. But as you eluded to I would not do that for a full price shoe or boot I would just do an MTO.


    Vinsep, post: 9086201, member: 272720"] I too have very high instep. In fact so high that even rain lasted shoes would look like that on my feet(probably even worse). I know derby or Blucher probably would be a better fit, yet I still love the aesthetics of an Oxford. That’s the reason why I went for MTO.

    Yup even the Rain is a bit of a gap for me but I have noticed that it varies (the V gap that is) from shoe to shoe even though all are on the Rain.
     


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    I wouldn't keep them although the V will eventually close up a bit, though aesthetically, they still won't look quite right to me. I've always read that the instep of the Inca last was lower than Rain though.
     


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    In my experience, Rain has more volume/higher instep, a bigger heel, and less room in the toes than Inca.

    The v-gap will certainly close somewhat, perhaps something like a third more closed than it is now. I have fairly low-volume feet (Simpson fits me quite well), so take this with a grain of salt: I personally think the shoes will break in so that the gap comes into an acceptable range, but that is an aesthetic choice. At the end of the day, if you aren't happy you shouldn't keep them.
     


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